nova_gteuk
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So if your child did take drugs and died from taking them incorrectly,you would feel the same as you said below?
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I'd rather leave all these people to take too much and die tbh at least then its a bit more of a deterrant, like all these speeding kills harsh posters of people with no heads etc. It does make you think twice
I would hope not,maybe if they where taught correctly then they wouldnt of become another statistic?
All im trying to say is educate them so they dont become a statistic.im not saying drugs are good,even if i do like pills 
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Rebecca
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Originally posted by Steve
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I've always had older friends. I was with a lad of 17 when I was 13.
I'll judge you for that 
tbh i blame the lad what a dick
you sound a right state of affairs bex
We'll its been fun.
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Joe
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Well obviously it'd be pretty shit, but tbh i'd blame myself as I would'nt have brought them up properly and yes I would feel the same really. I'd rather it affected some other peoples lives than them just carrying on with no effect.
I should'nt feel the need to say look kids, one day you will take drugs this is how to do it. The more statistics the better imo.
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Welsh Dan
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The argument of "its only the people who've never tried it, saying its bad" is a shit argument. I've never been shot in the face, or been stabbed with a knife, but I can safely say that neither are particularly appealing or a good idea. 
Novabex, you haven't got a clue and you have some of the worst arguments of evAr
[Edited on 25-07-2007 by Welsh Dan]
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Rebecca
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I do have a clue. I'm just crap about getting my point across. English isnt my strong point.
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Steve
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bex you are young, everyone thinks they know best when they young
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Jules S
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Ive heard/seen/known the likes of bex many a time in my life.
Sure, doing speed can be controlled...the trouble is that everybody I know started off like bex (once a month)...then does speed once a fortnight....then every friday etc etc.
Then its wooooo lets do a thursday night out for a change.
Followed by: 'ooooh Im on a downer big time on friday morning, anybody got any valium (or the name equivalent)'
The trouble here is that the people who drugs only portray the 'up' side of them and dont seem willing or able to post the downside.
Bex:
Ever considered downers to compensate the aftermath of uppers?
Either way you are on a rocky road
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chris-sri
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Talk to Frank??
In all seriousness drugs are illegal for a reason. If alcohol was discovered noe then it would probably be classed as a controlled drug as it is it has became socially acceptable over a number of centuries. The reason that the government in this country can tell you what not to put into your body is the same as why they can tell you not to break into people's houses - It's the law.
It's not only the effects on the person taking the pill/snorting the line that you have to take into account. Dealing class A drugs is nearly always linked to organised crime. People involved in this sort of crime commit the most violent horrendous offences that you can think of. Also it can lead to using harder and harder drugs, I bet there is someone at your school who started off smoking weed and doing Lsd for the laugh and ended up hooked on heroin or crack cocaine. These are the people who commit burgaries and street robberies to fund their addictions. I'm not suggesting that everyone who takes drugs will get to this extreme but it's worth thinking about.
People have to make their own choice. Use of class A drugs is widespread on Friday/Saturday nights but if you get caught then you have to be willing to accept the consequences. How many employers will look favourably on a caution/conviction for possession of Class A drugs bearing in mind that it won't tell them the details? You could be a 1 pill a week clubber or a £50 a day heroin addict and they wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Sorry for the essay
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John
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This is far too long for me to read, I left at page 15.
The last comment I could be bothered reading is bex being able to take pills and go to work the next day.
Your job either entails going in and sitting monged out for the next 2 days or your taking paracetemol or something.
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Rebecca
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I work in a shop. I'm fine and dandy the next day. I work at 11 on a saturday.
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Steve
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Originally posted by chris-sri
Talk to Frank??
In all seriousness drugs are illegal for a reason. If alcohol was discovered noe then it would probably be classed as a controlled drug as it is it has became socially acceptable over a number of centuries. The reason that the government in this country can tell you what not to put into your body is the same as why they can tell you not to break into people's houses - It's the law.
It's not only the effects on the person taking the pill/snorting the line that you have to take into account. Dealing class A drugs is nearly always linked to organised crime. People involved in this sort of crime commit the most violent horrendous offences that you can think of. Also it can lead to using harder and harder drugs, I bet there is someone at your school who started off smoking weed and doing Lsd for the laugh and ended up hooked on heroin or crack cocaine. These are the people who commit burgaries and street robberies to fund their addictions. I'm not suggesting that everyone who takes drugs will get to this extreme but it's worth thinking about.
People have to make their own choice. Use of class A drugs is widespread on Friday/Saturday nights but if you get caught then you have to be willing to accept the consequences. How many employers will look favourably on a caution/conviction for possession of Class A drugs bearing in mind that it won't tell them the details? You could be a 1 pill a week clubber or a £50 a day heroin addict and they wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Sorry for the essay
pretty much what i cba typing out 
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poole
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Originally posted by chris-sri
Talk to Frank??
In all seriousness drugs are illegal for a reason. If alcohol was discovered noe then it would probably be classed as a controlled drug as it is it has became socially acceptable over a number of centuries. The reason that the government in this country can tell you what not to put into your body is the same as why they can tell you not to break into people's houses - It's the law.
It's not only the effects on the person taking the pill/snorting the line that you have to take into account. Dealing class A drugs is nearly always linked to organised crime. People involved in this sort of crime commit the most violent horrendous offences that you can think of. Also it can lead to using harder and harder drugs, I bet there is someone at your school who started off smoking weed and doing Lsd for the laugh and ended up hooked on heroin or crack cocaine. These are the people who commit burgaries and street robberies to fund their addictions. I'm not suggesting that everyone who takes drugs will get to this extreme but it's worth thinking about.
People have to make their own choice. Use of class A drugs is widespread on Friday/Saturday nights but if you get caught then you have to be willing to accept the consequences. How many employers will look favourably on a caution/conviction for possession of Class A drugs bearing in mind that it won't tell them the details? You could be a 1 pill a week clubber or a £50 a day heroin addict and they wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Sorry for the essay
Sounds like you copied that straight out of the police handbook.
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M333KS D
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Not at all, I have tried weed and would never ever do anything more and I hope my kids take the same attitude or they will be getting kicked on the streets and I know all my mates are the same.
I'd rather leave all these people to take too much and die tbh at least then its a bit more of a deterrant, like all these speeding kills harsh posters of people with no heads etc. It does make you think twice.
Anywho thats just how I feel and everyone is free to do what they want.
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Originally posted by joe6886
Well obviously it'd be pretty shit, but tbh i'd blame myself as I would'nt have brought them up properly and yes I would feel the same really. I'd rather it affected some other peoples lives than them just carrying on with no effect.
I should'nt feel the need to say look kids, one day you will take drugs this is how to do it. The more statistics the better imo.
now instead of keeping this as a debate, you have just basically said, every1 who takes any drugs, i hope you overdose and die, including your kids if they ever tried them, YOU have a lot to learn my friend, what a completely fucking ridiculous thing to say, grow up
and the bit about parenting, its nothing to do with the parents, when people grow up they might decide to try something new, they have a mind of their own, if people say to their kids "dont you ever do any drugs of any kind" what are they going to do???? exactly
[Edited on 26-07-2007 by M333KS D]
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Originally posted by drunkenfool
. Dont get caught up in it, at the end of the day theres a HELL of a lot more to life than sitting in front of the tv with a spliff hanging out of your mouth.
Your right.
I don't smoke in my house, I go in the garden, listen to the birds, watch the rabbits going mad, go look at the fish, maybe tidy the garden up a bit, or just relax in the sun.
Boom tish 
TV is only for motorsport
DF is right though, if you've got to the stage of, "shall i go out this saturday and do something, or wake up, have a smoke, and do nothing all day" then you've gone too far and weeds taking over.
COntrol, its all about self control.
Bex, no offence, but you really do sound like a girl who has rich parents and is rebelling against everything.
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Originally posted by Jules S
The trouble here is that the people who drugs only portray the 'up' side of them and dont seem willing or able to post the downside.
JUles is DEAD right there, but can also be applied to lots of other things.
See i KNOW the downsides of green, i know the risks, what it does to my body when smoke, how it effects my control, and my mind.
Maybe thats why I can control how much i smoke, because I understand the real facts opposed to some facts the local ned has told me.
Also, green in this country is terrible. You never know what your buying really. You can't tell from the smell how strong it is at all. That why i like Amsterdam, you know what your buying, its legal, you have a choice of the different highs you want (monged, giggly etc). Its clear cut, its explained, and tbh, no-one takes the p1ss about it out there either.
But as i've said previously (and can see from this post), the UK just isn't mentally strong enoughto cope with the culture change.
But having said that, Amsterdams coffee shops MAY be no more as of next year when the smoking ban comes into effect out there.........
If anyone wants to know the effects and possibles of green, just ask.
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Rebecca
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Bex, no offence, but you really do sound like a girl who has rich parents and is rebelling against everything.
Sussed.
I just do what I want when I want.
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Joe
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Originally posted by M333KS D
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Originally posted by joe6886
Not at all, I have tried weed and would never ever do anything more and I hope my kids take the same attitude or they will be getting kicked on the streets and I know all my mates are the same.
I'd rather leave all these people to take too much and die tbh at least then its a bit more of a deterrant, like all these speeding kills harsh posters of people with no heads etc. It does make you think twice.
Anywho thats just how I feel and everyone is free to do what they want.
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Originally posted by joe6886
Well obviously it'd be pretty shit, but tbh i'd blame myself as I would'nt have brought them up properly and yes I would feel the same really. I'd rather it affected some other peoples lives than them just carrying on with no effect.
I should'nt feel the need to say look kids, one day you will take drugs this is how to do it. The more statistics the better imo.
now instead of keeping this as a debate, you have just basically said, every1 who takes any drugs, i hope you overdose and die, including your kids if they ever tried them, YOU have a lot to learn my friend, what a completely fucking ridiculous thing to say, grow up
and the bit about parenting, its nothing to do with the parents, when people grow up they might decide to try something new, they have a mind of their own, if people say to their kids "dont you ever do any drugs of any kind" what are they going to do???? exactly
[Edited on 26-07-2007 by M333KS D]
I'd never wish death on anyone, just saying the more statistics the more its going to put people of doing them. Instead of saying this is how to do it and you will be fine. I'm just saying why teach people to do something illegal?
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I agree with Joe TBH.
Let people take drugs if they want to, remove all the help to get off them as if they want the choice to go on them in the first place on their own they can be fucked if Im giving tax to get them off.
And if they die they die, not much an effect on society really. Infact it will be less of a drain so bye bye.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
In todays society drug taking is also inevitable.is it not?
fucking funniest comment every
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Steve
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fully agree cosmo
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Originally posted by Jules S
The trouble here is that the people who drugs only portray the 'up' side of them and dont seem willing or able to post the downside.
I feel I have given a very balanced view of the situation, including my personal experience which has had some very negative sides including paranoia, not achieving my full academic potential, a good friend getting schizophrenia, and me very almost going to prison.
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Steve
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remind me, what are the plus sides?
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Tom
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Originally posted by drunkenfool
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Originally posted by Jules S
The trouble here is that the people who drugs only portray the 'up' side of them and dont seem willing or able to post the downside.
I feel I have given a very balanced view of the situation, including my personal experience which has had some very negative sides including paranoia, not achieving my full academic potential, a good friend getting schizophrenia, and me very almost going to prison.
Agreed same here, ifyou look back at page 10ish you willsee that I also understand the negative effects drugs can have on people.
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Steve
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I think DF is saying that he doesnt agree with taking drugs, and that its not a good thing to do, but maybe there are steps that can be taken to make it safer for people who have to?
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You wont get any sane individual arguing anything other than that Steve, they're bad for you and you shouldn't do them strictly speaking.
Unfortunately they are part of life, it's a temptation and folk like experiencing different things and that's why they do! Not because they believe it's good for them in any way.
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