stuartmitchell
Member
Registered: 24th Apr 04
Location: Kirkliston, Edinburgh
User status: Offline
|
rammed a fair bit of ching but thats it, wouldn't do pills.
|
Steve
Premium Member
Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by nova_gteuk
quote: Originally posted by poole
I'm pretty sure they are bad for your body.. but aren't most things that people enjoy?
in moderation and educated on how to take them.pills are safe.
most people either take too many pills,or drink to much water and drown.
exactly, so there is quite a risk associated with it, and no matter how much attempt you make at education there are people that wont listen, or refuse to, or get so wasted they dont care, then it becomes dangerous, that is why it is illegal
|
Rebecca
Member
Registered: 8th Jun 07
Location: Penwortham, Lancashire Drives: Integra Type R
User status: Offline
|
People dont listen to education about drinking though. All those binge drinkers throwing up and fighting in the streets? Therfore from your above argument alcohol should also be illegal.
|
poole
Member
Registered: 12th Oct 03
Location: Sheffield, UK Drives: 2.5 v6 Calibra
User status: Offline
|
At the end of the day until scientists in a lab can do proper research on ecstasy like they have with alcohol (and they can't because it's illegal) everything is opinion and statistics.
|
M333KS D
Member
Registered: 15th Mar 04
User status: Offline
|
yer you could bang 12 pils down you at once and keel over, but you could go out get pissed and hit a bottle of vodka cus you like to get pissed, then hey presto when it kicks in, you go to the hospital for your stomach pumped, or worse, like i said, each to their own, you cannot compare these two, you cannot compare 1 drug against the other, because they are all completely different
|
Steve
Premium Member
Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline
|
theres more risk taking E than there is weed,
weed give similar effects to alchohol, it is a depressent, your body slows down, as does your metabolism.
you natural reaction is to chill out, relax and maybe sleep
with E, your metabolism speeds up, your blood pressure rises, as does your pulse. You act hyper, and move a lot as such you feel the need to drink lots. Drinking too much is where a danger is.
There is to much risk taking E, even if its not directly from the drug itself, how it makes you react causes danger
[Edited on 25-07-2007 by Steve]
|
pdwhelan
Member
Registered: 25th Sep 06
Location: Wigan
User status: Offline
|
This is a debate that will never end tbh.. Everyone has their own views on them, personaly i dont like drugs and tend not to hang around with people that do them.
I dont see marijuana as a dangerous drug so i dont mind smoking it. I prefer it to alcohol.
I am in control and know what happened the next day, i am a better person from it, calm and laid back. I dont have bad effects from it, EVER! alcohol sends me west depending on what i drink. Beer is bad for me, i get violent and act like a complete and utter twat, Shots i just get drunk and have a good time but i dont like feeling drunk so i now dont drink ever! Unless it was a special occasion then i just drive and have a good time without the need for drink.
|
Steve
Premium Member
Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline
|
and if your answer is to educate people about drinking when on pills, you have to assume everyone will listen, or be in the state of mind to think clearly enough when on pills.
too much of a risk to assume
[Edited on 25-07-2007 by Steve]
|
smack
Member
Registered: 7th Jul 04
User status: Offline
|
in theroy pills are more dangourose than alcohol, u canrt ague that its fact
|
Superlite Ltd.
Member
Registered: 9th Jan 07
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Steve
theres more risk taking E than there is weed,
weed give similar effects to alchohol, it is a depressent, your body slows down, as does your metabolism.
you nataral reaction is to chill out, relax and maybe sleep
with E, your metabolism speeds up, your blood pressure rises, as does your pulse. You act hyper, and move a lot as such you feel the need to drink lots. Drinking too much is where a danger is.
There is to much risk taking E, even if its not directly from the drug itself, how it makes you react causes danger
Yes, what you say makes sense .
But long term, i think weed is worse from experience.
|
Rebecca
Member
Registered: 8th Jun 07
Location: Penwortham, Lancashire Drives: Integra Type R
User status: Offline
|
So paul you judge people because of the things they take?
|
Steve
Premium Member
Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline
|
i wouldnt judge anyone from just taking pills every weekend.
obviously if they are a dribbling addict with no nostrils i may pass judgement.
like i said a lot of mates took E and smoked weed most nites
|
nova_gteuk
Member
Registered: 15th May 02
Location: South Wales Drives: The Bandwagon
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Steve
quote: Originally posted by nova_gteuk
quote: Originally posted by poole
I'm pretty sure they are bad for your body.. but aren't most things that people enjoy?
in moderation and educated on how to take them.pills are safe.
most people either take too many pills,or drink to much water and drown.
exactly, so there is quite a risk associated with it, and no matter how much attempt you make at education there are people that wont listen, or refuse to, or get so wasted they dont care, then it becomes dangerous, that is why it is illegal
When i first took them i read up on them to make sure i was taking them correct,most normal people would do this to,as im sure most people dont wanna become a statistic.
if for example they educated you in school on how to take them and not just the affects off them there may be less deaths in society.
im 24 and im not saying i know everything,but i know pills are safe as i said if taken correctly...so education is the key 
|
Rebecca
Member
Registered: 8th Jun 07
Location: Penwortham, Lancashire Drives: Integra Type R
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by smack
in theroy pills are more dangourose than alcohol, u canrt ague that its fact
I feel less in control from drinking excessively than from taking an e.
|
Superlite Ltd.
Member
Registered: 9th Jan 07
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by pdwhelan
i am a better person from it, calm and laid back. I dont have bad effects from it, EVER!
...flashback
I said that once
|
pdwhelan
Member
Registered: 25th Sep 06
Location: Wigan
User status: Offline
|
No! i just dont hang around with them bex, i dont like drugs such as e's, speed! Thats my view on it but if you or anyone wants to take them then go ahead. Just dont find me staying in the same room as you lol
|
pdwhelan
Member
Registered: 25th Sep 06
Location: Wigan
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
quote: Originally posted by pdwhelan
i am a better person from it, calm and laid back. I dont have bad effects from it, EVER!
...flashback
I said that once
huh! sorry i have short term memory loss lol
|
Superlite Ltd.
Member
Registered: 9th Jan 07
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by novabex
quote: Originally posted by smack
in theroy pills are more dangourose than alcohol, u canrt ague that its fact
I feel less in control from drinking excessively than from taking an e.
Your not taking enough then Bex
|
Gareth
Member
Registered: 2nd Mar 00
Location: Derby, Drives: EVO VIII MR & pug 308
User status: Offline
|
talk to frank
|
Joe
Member
Registered: 20th Jun 04
Location: Hesketh Bank, Lancashire
User status: Offline
|
I don't think they should sit a 15 year old kid down and say this is how you take an E, the kids in a few generations will just spend all their days chewing their faces off No matter how you try and justify it, its illegal and I won't be doing it.
|
Steve
Premium Member
Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline
|
has anyone ever spoken to frank?
|
smack
Member
Registered: 7th Jul 04
User status: Offline
|
who says you drink exgsesivley (sp) everytime you go out to the pub tho?
|
Rebecca
Member
Registered: 8th Jun 07
Location: Penwortham, Lancashire Drives: Integra Type R
User status: Offline
|
Mr Nova GTE. Yeah I read up on it first before taking it. Same with speed.
|
M333KS D
Member
Registered: 15th Mar 04
User status: Offline
|
quote: Originally posted by Steve
has anyone ever spoken to frank?
steve, are you frank?
|
Steve
Premium Member
Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline
|
yes 
did my deep voice turn you on?
[Edited on 25-07-2007 by Steve]
|