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stuartmitchell
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25th Jul 07 at 20:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

rammed a fair bit of ching but thats it, wouldn't do pills.
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Originally posted by poole
I'm pretty sure they are bad for your body.. but aren't most things that people enjoy?


in moderation and educated on how to take them.pills are safe.

most people either take too many pills,or drink to much water and drown.





exactly, so there is quite a risk associated with it, and no matter how much attempt you make at education there are people that wont listen, or refuse to, or get so wasted they dont care, then it becomes dangerous, that is why it is illegal
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People dont listen to education about drinking though. All those binge drinkers throwing up and fighting in the streets? Therfore from your above argument alcohol should also be illegal.
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At the end of the day until scientists in a lab can do proper research on ecstasy like they have with alcohol (and they can't because it's illegal) everything is opinion and statistics.
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yer you could bang 12 pils down you at once and keel over, but you could go out get pissed and hit a bottle of vodka cus you like to get pissed, then hey presto when it kicks in, you go to the hospital for your stomach pumped, or worse, like i said, each to their own, you cannot compare these two, you cannot compare 1 drug against the other, because they are all completely different
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theres more risk taking E than there is weed,

weed give similar effects to alchohol, it is a depressent, your body slows down, as does your metabolism.

you natural reaction is to chill out, relax and maybe sleep

with E, your metabolism speeds up, your blood pressure rises, as does your pulse. You act hyper, and move a lot as such you feel the need to drink lots. Drinking too much is where a danger is.

There is to much risk taking E, even if its not directly from the drug itself, how it makes you react causes danger

[Edited on 25-07-2007 by Steve]
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This is a debate that will never end tbh.. Everyone has their own views on them, personaly i dont like drugs and tend not to hang around with people that do them.

I dont see marijuana as a dangerous drug so i dont mind smoking it. I prefer it to alcohol.

I am in control and know what happened the next day, i am a better person from it, calm and laid back. I dont have bad effects from it, EVER! alcohol sends me west depending on what i drink. Beer is bad for me, i get violent and act like a complete and utter twat, Shots i just get drunk and have a good time but i dont like feeling drunk so i now dont drink ever! Unless it was a special occasion then i just drive and have a good time without the need for drink.
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and if your answer is to educate people about drinking when on pills, you have to assume everyone will listen, or be in the state of mind to think clearly enough when on pills.

too much of a risk to assume

[Edited on 25-07-2007 by Steve]
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in theroy pills are more dangourose than alcohol, u canrt ague that its fact
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
theres more risk taking E than there is weed,

weed give similar effects to alchohol, it is a depressent, your body slows down, as does your metabolism.

you nataral reaction is to chill out, relax and maybe sleep

with E, your metabolism speeds up, your blood pressure rises, as does your pulse. You act hyper, and move a lot as such you feel the need to drink lots. Drinking too much is where a danger is.

There is to much risk taking E, even if its not directly from the drug itself, how it makes you react causes danger


Yes, what you say makes sense .

But long term, i think weed is worse from experience.
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So paul you judge people because of the things they take?
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i wouldnt judge anyone from just taking pills every weekend.

obviously if they are a dribbling addict with no nostrils i may pass judgement.

like i said a lot of mates took E and smoked weed most nites
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by nova_gteuk
quote:
Originally posted by poole
I'm pretty sure they are bad for your body.. but aren't most things that people enjoy?


in moderation and educated on how to take them.pills are safe.

most people either take too many pills,or drink to much water and drown.





exactly, so there is quite a risk associated with it, and no matter how much attempt you make at education there are people that wont listen, or refuse to, or get so wasted they dont care, then it becomes dangerous, that is why it is illegal


When i first took them i read up on them to make sure i was taking them correct,most normal people would do this to,as im sure most people dont wanna become a statistic.

if for example they educated you in school on how to take them and not just the affects off them there may be less deaths in society.

im 24 and im not saying i know everything,but i know pills are safe as i said if taken correctly...so education is the key

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quote:
Originally posted by smack
in theroy pills are more dangourose than alcohol, u canrt ague that its fact


I feel less in control from drinking excessively than from taking an e.
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i am a better person from it, calm and laid back. I dont have bad effects from it, EVER!


...flashback

I said that once
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No! i just dont hang around with them bex, i dont like drugs such as e's, speed! Thats my view on it but if you or anyone wants to take them then go ahead. Just dont find me staying in the same room as you lol
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quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
quote:
Originally posted by pdwhelan
i am a better person from it, calm and laid back. I dont have bad effects from it, EVER!


...flashback

I said that once


huh! sorry i have short term memory loss lol
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quote:
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quote:
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in theroy pills are more dangourose than alcohol, u canrt ague that its fact


I feel less in control from drinking excessively than from taking an e.


Your not taking enough then Bex
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talk to frank
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I don't think they should sit a 15 year old kid down and say this is how you take an E, the kids in a few generations will just spend all their days chewing their faces off No matter how you try and justify it, its illegal and I won't be doing it.
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has anyone ever spoken to frank?
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who says you drink exgsesivley (sp) everytime you go out to the pub tho?
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Mr Nova GTE. Yeah I read up on it first before taking it. Same with speed.
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
has anyone ever spoken to frank?


steve, are you frank?
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yes

did my deep voice turn you on?

[Edited on 25-07-2007 by Steve]

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