Colin
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Time is something ive got a fair bit of due to the nature of my job im at home off with little to do (as ive no hobbies) 6 weeks from every 10. I think thats part of my interest here aswell to give me something to do.
So ive got the time but im not sure if ive got the skills 
Im not sure how I feel about a complete build, its cheaper to buy complete in many cases isnt it, like to buy a used one with little miles.
BMW based things sound interesting. A mates got E36 M3 engine & running gear stored away I could aquire Something else to look into.
Whats the bottom car? Looks like it shouldnt really have plates & be on the road tbh
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Wrighty
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thrills dont come cheap?
how about a a 2nd set of wheels and some supension for the m3 to go on the track with?
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Ian
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Trouble with buying a partially built one is you might find people getting rid of stuff they've botched. You also have the issue that unless you're keen you might buy something old and difficult to IVA because the rules have changed since the kit was manufactured.
For example the new regs state that the seats must be bolted to the chassis and not the floor skin. If your kit doesn't have chassis outriggers for the seats you need firstly be aware of this problem, then to fabricate something to sort it that'll pass the test.
If you buy a new kit you've a lot more support from the kit manufacturer and most will have solutions to test-related problems. Second hand older stuff may not benefit from that.
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jamez_zz
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1138267.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1058397.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1124628.htm
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by jamez_zz
Whats your budget Colin?
Not sure really.
Im not going to/cant do anything until next year anyway, as ive too much on just now, moving house & all the things involved takes priority.
But once thats out the way Ive got the green light to get a track/weekend toy
Id say 10k budget, however if I decided on something like a Nob i'd happily take some tick for the other 10k.
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Ste
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why not the whole hog and throw £30k at it
Then sell it after a year for £45k
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
thrills dont come cheap?
how about a a 2nd set of wheels and some supension for the m3 to go on the track with?
Im not convinced it would be as much fun.
I dont really see it as a track car, its got too much leather & TV/DVD & interior to be fun & nimble on a tight track like Knockhill (likelly one i'd use). Suspension & spare wheels & tyres wont be much cheaper.
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Ian W
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My mates got a kit car like Ste W's, not sure what it is but its similar. Think he paid about 6k for it.
I went on a track day with him and it was feckin brilliant, fastest thing I ever been in.
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Ste
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Colin, that beemer weighs about 25 tonnes. wait till you feel 300bhp in a 500kg car 
[Edited on 22-07-2009 by Ste W]
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Trouble with buying a partially built one is you might find people getting rid of stuff they've botched. You also have the issue that unless you're keen you might buy something old and difficult to IVA because the rules have changed since the kit was manufactured.
For example the new regs state that the seats must be bolted to the chassis and not the floor skin. If your kit doesn't have chassis outriggers for the seats you need firstly be aware of this problem, then to fabricate something to sort it that'll pass the test.
If you buy a new kit you've a lot more support from the kit manufacturer and most will have solutions to test-related problems. Second hand older stuff may not benefit from that.
Good advice Ian.
More to consider, im going to take my time with this one, This is going to be another long drawn affair from me.
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste W
why not the whole hog and throw £30k at it
Then sell it after a year for £45k
LOL I wish. Do they really appreciate in value?? Or is that buying in kit form, building to a high standard & selling on?
I think were going a bit out of my league now
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Colin
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Plus £30k would be better spent on a RS500 Lightweight wouldnt it?? 
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Ian
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Ultima for £30k will be a fairly low-spec one.
You can technically build and sell for a profit as soon as it's road-legal although most people who have done it tell you that the temptation is there to spend more and get the better stuff, engine, brakes etc.
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Colin
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£8k Griffith 5.0L
Alternative?
4.1 to 60, 167mph? Is that right for this one??
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CorsAsh
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sand-eel
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elise s1 with honda 2 litre vtec engine, seems to be getting done a lot now.
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Ojc
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106 GTi, Saxo VTS.
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sand-eel
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^^^that or a caterham, the one I drove had 180bhp and that was utterly rapid, thought there was something wrong but it was just the rev limiter as it rev'd so fast, been in a 270bhp westfield V8 that was rediculous
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Colin
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Originally posted by CorsAsh
Mmmmmmm
Not cheap i'd imagine!!
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
106 GTi, Saxo VTS.
Not really what I have in mind.
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mattk
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you already have an M3 
[Edited on 22-07-2009 by mattk]
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Colin
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Daily driver
Its not suited to fast sprints, its too heavy
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Ste
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Those dax are meant to be a bitch to drive. Too light for turbo's really.
For your budget and all the time off you get, I'd be building a car tbh. at least then, you know it inside out and a kit like an MNR or westie don't require much tech knowledge as they are like a mechano set and just bolt together.
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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will_ainsworth
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id like a kit car with vtec and a turbo tbh imo
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