Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
The engine in the original 138 gti had reliabilty issue's so it was re-vamped in the 180 with VVT and some other goodies to make it reliable.
really?
is that why peugeot still use this engine then?
In what??
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Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by cunningham
all down to the driver then a suppose in tnhe v6 cav i left a 180bhp pug on the slip road was deffo a 180 aswell as i know the guy
As in a slip road that joins onto a dual carriageway??
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cunningham
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yes
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Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by cunningham
yes
In what way did you "leave" it as slip roads arent that long to warrant a decent distance.
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Jambo
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I didnt mean that particular one, i meant the turisme edition with the detriots etc.
I might actually get one £2k 
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cunningham
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he came along side his back end at my front wing he was on outside both nailed it and left him he was supprised to
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john_c20xe
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i work for peugeot! driven many and they all drive the same, would steer slear imo, the 207 gti thp 175 is very nice! 1.6 petrol turbo bmw engine, pulls hard and sounds nice
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Pop
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Originally posted by Jambo
I didnt mean that particular one, i meant the turisme edition with the detriots etc.
I might actually get one £2k
Yeah I just posted my comment incase anyone was thinking of getting that particular one.
I had a 206 GTi and it was great fun.
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Richardhhha
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problem with the 306 is that is weighs a tone, if it wasnt as heavy it would fly!
problem is pug did down tune the lump but if you change a few things you will see the 180bhp and it will be reliable.. if it rattles its tits off it will keep going, if its quiet then i'd worry personaly as i used to work for a peugeot dealer and have had quite a few discusions with the master techs.
new set of cams, touch of head work, exhaust manifold & system, and my favoret adition a lightened flywheel... and it will be no slouch at all
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Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by cunningham
he came along side his back end at my front wing he was on outside both nailed it and left him he was supprised to
So a rolling start where the torque of the V6 would come into play??
What happened 2secs later when you'se joined the dual carriageway??
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Corsa_Sport21
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So in what way did they de-tune it??
And John what cars still use the EW10J4?
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cunningham
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just kept pulling really he then gave up at around 100mph as to not get to silly speeds
oh yeh a rolling start im in no way saying it would leave it dead at lights or what not
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john_c20xe
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software download.
and im sure they didnt use that engine again,
possibly in the expert as ive just read
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john_c20xe
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Originally posted by cunningham
just kept pulling really he then gave up at around 100mph as to not get to silly speeds
oh yeh a rolling start im in no way saying it would leave it dead at lights or what not
mate standard fiesta zetec s beat one up the pod both got 16.4 quater miles
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Corsa_Sport21
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So how is it possible to pull low 15s 1/4s in standard trim with 140bhp??
Im not arguing that they arent de-tuned,but they deffo aint de-tuned to 140bhp.
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john_c20xe
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a corsa redtop 150 bhp will do 15s
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Corsa_Sport21
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Yeah i know that,the 180 will do it not far off a corsa redtop.
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Kevxx
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Yeah i know that,the 180 will do it not far off a corsa redtop.
you said a 180 took a v6 ...well it should i'd say any 2.0 16v in a small car should destroy any bigger v6 due to weight etc, the fact that it didn't destroy it, and if it is 175bhp like your argueing, its a pretty bad 175bhp car.
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Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Yeah i know that,the 180 will do it not far off a corsa redtop.
you said a 180 took a v6 ...well it should i'd say any 2.0 16v in a small car should destroy any bigger v6 due to weight etc, the fact that it didn't destroy it, and if it is 175bhp like your argueing, its a pretty bad 175bhp car.
Where did i say a 180 took a V6??
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Kevxx
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Yeah i know that,the 180 will do it not far off a corsa redtop.
you said a 180 took a v6 ...well it should i'd say any 2.0 16v in a small car should destroy any bigger v6 due to weight etc, the fact that it didn't destroy it, and if it is 175bhp like your argueing, its a pretty bad 175bhp car.
Where did i say a 180 took a V6??
"A friend used to have 1 and it went very well,not far off the pace of my old Mk3 Astra Gsi v6 with app 190bhp but i dont think his was standard (think it was re-mapped) as it used to leave a local lads 180 with ease"
So you're saying the 180 failed to beat a 190bhp v6?
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Corsa_Sport21
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Yes but the 180 in question was deffo not standard.From a standing start,the V6 was only about a car length ahead.
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Kevxx
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so a non standard 180 couldn't beat a v6?
I shudder to think how crap it is standard then.
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Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by Kevxx
so a non standard 180 couldn't beat a v6?
I shudder to think how crap it is standard then.
I fail to see what your getting at TBH??
The V6 was pushing around 190bhp,the Gti 180 around the same maybe a tad more(proven by handing a standard 180 its tawties),the V6's advantage was it has more torque and was in a Mk3 Astra Gsi.
Cunningham has also said his standard V6 Cavalier pulled on a standard 180 from a rolling start(again,the higher torque gave him the advantage).
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Phil W
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I had the GTi (130 early version) and loved it.
Ok, so its performance won't set the world on fire, but it is a very capable car.
People rant on about reliability issues and build quality, i had mine for 10K plus miles and not many were driven steadily, it never failed me once. Like any car, look after it and service it well and it should serve you without too many problems.
Like most French cars, it had the odd squeak and rattle on the interior, but it didn't feel poorly built, infact it was very comfortable, and some nice toys come with the GTi too.
Heres some pics of my old one 
[Edited on 25-06-2009 by Phil W]
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
And John what cars still use the EW10J4?
The EW10J4 was in the 206 gti and Citroen C4.It was superceded by the EW10J4S which is the 180 version. Both of which are predecessors of the XU9J4 and XU9JZ engines from the 405 Mi16 and BX GTi.
I have owned both a 180 (from new) and a second hand 138 which I still have. Both are very capable cars and are packed with toys. My 138 pisses on a Corsa GSi for speed, handling, comfort and 'extras'.
I laugh at all the people here saying they are shit cars. Clearly you have never owned one! I have had seven Peugeots and their build quality is far superior than the two Vauxhalls I have owned. For a start they don't rust, they are fully galvanised.
Maybe a Corsa XE is faster in a straight line, but it can't go round bends!
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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