Rick Draper
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Guess its more like a real road situation than racing around a nice wide track.
Still i recon a XE'd corsa or a 106 gti could do the RS lol
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gez bay
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quote:
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Originally posted by Stu
I just dont think the FRS is as special as the hype made out!
agree no more than a fancy kitted st tbh. if the bvideo had long straights then people would complain that the course didnt suit the clio
exactly, you cant race someone and say, you only won because the roads are better for your car 
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Ojc
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VERY HEAVY.
But yes I do agree that the FRS has been massively overhyped by the media, it carrys an RS badge of course it will be overhyped.
The R26R is a much better car. Only downside is that it doesn't have 4 seats. But meh, who carries passengers in this day and age?
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taylorboosh
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fact is the clio keeps up with a car twice the price that is hyped to fuck
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Ojc
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Ford are in cahoots with motoring press.
Revoknuckle? Who gives a shit, Renault don't they don't shout about it.
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alan-g-w
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tbh if you put the clio in front it would be the same story, if not a case of the RS being closer.
What's the clio called?
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antnee
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Is it just me or did the guy driving the clio keep bouncing it off the limiter instead of changing? 
Take them to the top gear track 
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Baskey
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have they released any times yet for the focus round the ring, been looking for a while but havnt spotted any?
Also bhp per ton wont be miles apart between the frs a clio
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Adam_B
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The clio if its the cup one is 200bhp and 1204 kgs, the focus is 100 bhp more but nearly 1500kgs 
No wonder the clio spanks it on the brakes!
[Edited on 19-06-2009 by Adam_B]
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Scotty_B
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Power to weight must be pretty much the same, so the vid is probably about right.
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Adam_B
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If my terrible maths are right the focus has about an extra 30bhp per ton on the clio. The Focus just needs bigger brakes or to go on a serious diet i rekon and the clio would be no problemo.
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Baskey
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Clio will have brembos as standard, not sure what the focus uses
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BluKoo
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Originally posted by Baskey
have they released any times yet for the focus round the ring, been looking for a while but havnt spotted any?
Yeah, Sport-Auto managed an 8:25 round the ring, so its a fair bit slower (9 seconds) than the R29.R which was a bit of a disappointment.
However, 8:25 is the same time as a Lotus Exige S, Jaguar XKR & Porsche Cayman S, so its not all bad.
[Edited on 19-06-2009 by BluKoo]
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Adam_B
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Not being funny but i find it very hard to believe a Focus RS gets round the Nurburgring the same as a Exige S. Where are those figures from?
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Baskey
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8.25 is pritty quick, lotus will loose time on the long straights
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BluKoo
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To be honest it stuck me as a little odd too.
Sport-Auto publish thier times on wiki...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
There's also this site...
http://www.fastestlaps.com/track2.html
The lotus is light, but its not that powerful.
[Edited on 19-06-2009 by BluKoo]
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Stu
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Nurburg is a big track for the Exige
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BluKoo
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The RS is only 0.7 of a second behind the Exige S on Anglesey, and thats a much smaller tighter track.
Source
[Edited on 19-06-2009 by BluKoo]
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Adam_B
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The exige is heavier than my car! I always thought they would be uber light, suppose it makes sense with the wider track and extra spoilers etc. Bet the aero kills the high speed acceleration as well.
Oh man, Lotus' are gash 
Edit - what is the plural for Lotus anyway? Loti? Lotuses? Yeah im bored.
[Edited on 19-06-2009 by Adam_B]
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
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Originally posted by Baskey
have they released any times yet for the focus round the ring, been looking for a while but havnt spotted any?
Yeah, Sport-Auto managed an 8:25 round the ring, so its a fair bit slower (9 seconds) than the R29.R which was a bit of a disappointment.
However, 8:25 is the same time as a Lotus Exige S, Jaguar XKR & Porsche Cayman S, so its not all bad.
[Edited on 19-06-2009 by BluKoo]
That 8.25 is horseshit for a car with fancy suspension 300bhp and LSD and supposed to be the best thing in the entire world.
10 seconds over my standard shit handling VXR over a 12.9 mile distance is rubbish.
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Nick-S
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The clio has the same suspension set up as the focus. Add a diff and a bit more power (maybe supercherger) and i bet the clio would me a far better car.
No douting the focus is good but my oppinion is they are over rated.
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richc
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If the insurance wasnt so much (nearly £3k at my tender age) i would have a 197 tomorrow. Brilliant little car. I love a car that handles!
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Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu
I just dont think the FRS is as special as the hype made out!
I get that impression too ONLY from what i've seen of it in video's (before anyone starts saying yeah have you driven one blah) it looks oversteery which is obviously fine for dicking about but I bet this and the unstable rear end at high speed gets left off TG for example.
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Ojc
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Top Gear will tell us all it's the best thing ever, of course they will.
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BluKoo
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Top Gear will tell us all it's the best thing ever, of course they will.
The Stig and the lap time will tell the true story though.
I'm not sure how well/badly its going to do.
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