jonnysri
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Originally posted by P1CK4D
What bullet? 
the 'bullet' of being a bit of a noob and everyone ganging up on you lol 
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JM_16v
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EK Type R none of that EP3 soft touch crap
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P1CK4D
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Originally posted by JM_16v
EK Type R none of that EP3 soft touch crap
Love the Ek9s to pieces. Just a EP3 will smash over it 
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JM_16v
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tbh i wouldnt go with either i would get a import DC2
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P1CK4D
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Originally posted by JM_16v
tbh i wouldnt go with either i would get a import DC2
Snap 
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JM_16v
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great cars, good power and look stunning. look alot better than the UK version.
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whitter45
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both standard
Type R is quicker
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jonnysri
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haha just watching topgear, and guess whats just come on??
clarkson reviewing both CTR's proving the old one is better than the new 1 haha
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Ash_EP3
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In terms of looks Astra wins it hands down for me, I'm still not a fan of those front headlights on the civics
I drove my mates 1.6 V-tec (VTI 160bhp) yesterday and tbh it wasn't anything special 
Yes VTEC does sound nuts and it is nice to have that pull at higher rpm, but the low down pull is shockingly bad
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Brett
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Maybe if you actually drove a type R like we're actually talking about....
[Edited on 14-05-2009 by loafofbrett]
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mattk
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how often do you drive round using that high rpm pull though, pulling out of a roundabout at 9k 
much rather have an astras low down turbo power
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Eck
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A standard 1.6 VTi vs a Standard 1.6 Sport... The torque is pretty much equal
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Daimo B
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Civis, was watching some old Japanese touring cars.
Super 1600cc VTEC's revving to 10,000-11,000rpm on braking. Sounds bloody mental, almost like an IL4 bike being thrashed.
Made me want one, bad
Oh, Me, being a vauxhall bloke, i'd go for the Civic, but thats me and my driving style.
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Ash_EP3
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
Maybe if you actually drove a type R like we're actually talking about....
[Edited on 14-05-2009 by loafofbrett]
It was my first experience of driving a civic with a vtec engine and tbh I don't see what everyone is creaming on about?  it's still the same principle with VTEC... just less power
oh and all this the civic will corner better... does it really matter unless you track it? I mean seriously does it really matter that your mate can go around a corner slightly quicker than you?
[Edited on 14-05-2009 by S214_UPP]
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Daimo B
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Most people don't know how to corner anyway.
I've very rarley come up against people who "play" who actually corner and brake properly
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jonnysri
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well now it appears that i can either have:
astra vxr,
civic type r
astra will cost more than the civic to get the specific one i want obviously
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Eck
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Out of them then no doubt the VXR. But it'll be a shit lot more than a Type r!
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Pete_vxl
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i went for an Astra GSi because mainly im a vauxhall man but also i think CTR's are quite chavvy. Everytime i see one its always ''Tec'ing'' it. Looks wise the astra wins easily. Ive never driven a type R but the astra isnt anything special anyway so wouldnt be hard to beat. I think the general conclusion is that the astra can be enjoyed both giving it some and also pootling about, whereas the civic just wants to grab you by the gonads all the time.
edit: If you get a CTR over a VXR you need shot
[Edited on 14-05-2009 by Pete_vxl]
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jonnysri
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its a tough decision really, cos although i like the GSI, buying one in this climate and trying to sell it 2 years or however long i choose to keep it, will be fucking murder cos the value will drop like a stone.
i really want a VXR but up until yesterday having an interesting phone call with the insurance company, they admitted they'd insure me on one.
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JM_16v
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DC2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tbh the comments regarding the Civic VTi not being fun are unfounded, there a very good capable car and yes they dont have a balance of bhp to torque BUT it has more torque than a corsa sport/gsi and more power. They are very good fun cars and are the best hot hatch from there era in my opinion
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Adam_B
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Originally posted by S214_UPP
oh and all this the civic will corner better... does it really matter unless you track it? I mean seriously does it really matter that your mate can go around a corner slightly quicker than you?
Its nothing to do with how fast it will go round a corner, its about as a driver you feel feedback through the wheel, the car not rolling over onto its door handles and not understeering into a ditch. Good handling is different to going round a corner fast, lots of people dont get this.
[Edited on 14-05-2009 by Adam_B]
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Ash_EP3
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
quote:
Originally posted by S214_UPP
oh and all this the civic will corner better... does it really matter unless you track it? I mean seriously does it really matter that your mate can go around a corner slightly quicker than you?
Its nothing to do with how fast it will go round a corner, its about as a driver you feel feedback through the wheel, the car not rolling over onto its door handles and not understeering into a ditch. Good handling is different to going round a corner fast, lots of people dont get this.
[Edited on 14-05-2009 by Adam_B]
From reviews I have read the Civic Type R also suffers from lack of feel via the steering wheel along with the Astra GSi T
I've been looking at both of these cars myself just not sure what to get!
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gavin18787
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Originally posted by mattk
how often do you drive round using that high rpm pull though, pulling out of a roundabout at 9k
erm 
I love mine. First I wasnt that impressed but once you know how to drive it as it were its mega fun 
Will cruise well enough with around 150bhp on the other cam and its easy enough to change down a gear 
Still do have a soft spot for the astra gsi's though but after back to back drives I prefered the civic
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Mark.W
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i dont like where the gear stick is located on the civic like a transit van
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SAL
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If you want a car to go and abuse all day long and tbh not give a fuck about = type R
if you want a money pit which requires love and attension = astra gsi
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