willay
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yes I'm sure I'm the only one who has that opinion mate
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Daimo B
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Course your not. Theres got to be more sheep following somewhere hasn't there 
Stand up and fight for what you think and your just a pain in the ass eh People don't like bigmouths.
I used to be loved for it though Theres no love anymore, only egos
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willay
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no no, I believe you are right in what you were saying on page one, I just think the way you went about it may come across as, southern cuntyness perhaps?
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Daimo B
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Im always a cunt on here.
I used to be nice, before your time. But some people on here made me turn this way due to various circumstances. So now everyone gets the same verbal 
Meh, come on, its no real biggy is it these days. Don't even own one. Just come for the banter 
Had your mum. Twice. Anal *prod prod*
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willay
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nice before my time? you need to get a grip mate, I remember when you were very nice and use to get verbal from vibrio/steve daily. 
and yeah you may not own a corsa anymore but you're still a valuable resource with good, proven information to give.
[Edited on 30-01-2009 by willay]
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Daimo B
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Aww cheers homie 
Only sarcasm, I try not to get really offensive. I'll play nicer 
Pillip2, much love foxy
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av it
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400bhp on a let is a totally different issue when the turbo comes into play
but your right about seeing 200bhp on an xe if you have the funds
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philip2
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hang on mr vxr.....the lads talking about an XE not an LET, bit of a differance atmo engine and a forced induction. swindon is a different league compared to most other people and would of spent thousands in developing it.
but realistically about 180bhp is peak imo!
[Edited on 30-01-2009 by philip2]
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mantamark
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I always thought you couldnt get that power without ditching the standard AFM, as over 180ish they seem to be unable to cope.
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av it
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^^^^^^^
as stated in my post above!
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Mattb
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Swindon race engines can build a 200bhp XE on a standard inlet.. i belive someone mailed them about it.. it does involve some serious headwork, funky cams iirc and a heavily modified ecu...
However, off the shelf stuff as per the quote on the 1st page will struggle to make 180 bhp..
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taylorboosh
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my 20xe in nova had 178 iir and that had cams, twin 40s, fuel reg, adjustable rev, 4 branch and a full exhaust
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av it
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^^^
yes but thats with carbs
and its a little low for that spec aswell
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taylorboosh
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it was rolling roaded, and being a 20xe it was also de-cat. so many people overestimate what power there car pushes out
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Nic Barnes
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quote: Originally posted by VXR
Standard inlet has been proved to flow just shy of 400bhp.... So where di you get max of 200bhp from..?
technilly, not wanting to prove you wrong, but std inlet has been proven to make 500bhp.
please get your facts right.
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av it
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yes agreed on an let not xe
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mantamark
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XE / LET inlet manifolds exactly the same?
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Ste L
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quote: Originally posted by mantamark
XE / LET inlet manifolds exactly the same?
yes
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sand-eel
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quote: Originally posted by philip2
you'd be lucky to see 160bhp realistically, despite what everyone seems to claim about what bhp cams, air filters, exhausts etc add, most of its to get the less inteligent people to buy it to make them think their engines are gona be mega fast.
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And an XE can make 200bhp without TB
an xe wont make much more than 180bhp on the stock inlet!
If a 1.6 8v nova engine can make 150bhp from a standard inlet i would say a c20xe could make 200bhp
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av it
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quote: Originally posted by mantamark
XE / LET inlet manifolds exactly the same?
yes but the turbo denotes a totally different setup which will equate to different numbers as above
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rob_zetec
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Iain are you talking about gaz's 2 litre? Ant told me it was 200bhp, but then ant beat it so no way it is 200bhp, more like 160 or there abouts.
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philip2
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quote:
If a 1.6 8v nova engine can make 150bhp from a standard inlet i would say a c20xe could make 200bhp
may make it but not on a realistic budget where you'd start looking towards carbs/tb's.
+ im sure the 8v inlet has alot shorter tract. the XE one was designed to help gain torque!
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sand-eel
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yeah people are saying it WILL NOT make 200bhp, it defo will but as you say silly costs without tbs/carbs
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philip2
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true, but for someone to want 200bhp using the stock inlet, then that would have something more to do with class rules or something then?!
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lwigmore
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quote: Originally posted by VXR
quote: Originally posted by willay
daimo you really do go over top dont you?
In your eyes maybe.
I like being right, and saracsm is my form of humour. Tough titties on those that can't hack it. Especially when im in this much of a rip piss taking mood.
 
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