Eck
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Tbh I don't really heart Saxo But yeah, we shall agree to disagree. I'm an XSi man now  Buy one!
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tom_simes
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I'm not, as I heart the griffin
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corsa - gus
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Our Ibizas still have more power than a VTR or even a VTS for that matter Eck.
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pow
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A 106 XSi is likely to be the next car I buy tbh
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Hammer
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MPG isn't the be all and end all, you'd never believe that reading through cs these days.
A 1.9tdi will be a nicer car to drive than a 1.2 petrol for most, plenty of torque and no revving the balls off it to get it going anywhere.
So if you're going to swap i'd go on more than just a couple of miles per gallon sums. It's more than just; diesel = economical, petrol = less so.
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Ojc
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Just read a very good thread on Pistonheads about this exact topic and was going to post something similar.
They have done a bit more investigating and research than displayed here, I can't remember the cars they used as an example but it worked out that it's still cheaper to run a diesel but that figure was growing smaller with each month that passes. I think the figure was something like £320 a year, which when you factor in the higher price of buying the diesel car you will most likely be out of pocket in the long run anyway.
I personally see no advantage of owning a diesel what so ever.
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pow
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On the other hand though hammer, a 2.0 petrol would be smoother than my TDi, thats my only gripe about the TDi
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i'm going to have to join the Ibiza boys as i drive the same car. You still can't really match the power/economy/price combination we've got going on!
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tom_simes
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I agree with Hammer, hence why i bought my expensive tax, thirsty 1.6 
I prefer the drive of a petrol to a diesel tbh, when you are out having a bit of fun on the roads, I prefer the revvy nature of a petrol, its a much more involving drive.
Although saying that, I'll hopefully be buying a seconf car come the summer, and it'll probabaly be a diesel
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Eck
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quote: Originally posted by corsa - gus
Our Ibizas still have more power than a VTR or even a VTS for that matter Eck.
Indeed laddie. But sooo much heavier. Tbh I'm biased with the chuckable hoot inducing powers of a French tin can!
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Ojc
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quote: Originally posted by Hammer
MPG isn't the be all and end all, you'd never believe that reading through cs these days.
A 1.9tdi will be a nicer car to drive than a 1.2 petrol for most, plenty of torque and no revving the balls off it to get it going anywhere.
So if you're going to swap i'd go on more than just a couple of miles per gallon sums. It's more than just; diesel = economical, petrol = less so.
Yes but a 1.9TDi has a bigger CC and a turbo, what about comparing to a 2.0T petrol?
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Eck
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quote: Originally posted by pow
A 106 XSi is likely to be the next car I buy tbh
If that was sarcasm - 
If it was genuine -  :iloveyoumwah:
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pow
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Ollie makes a good point again.
Now though, since petrol prices have gone up, £200 is pocket money and tbh, if I was buying now, petrols would be within the what I would be looking at.
Knowing my luck, i'd sell up, buy a nice 1.6 16v and diesel would be slashed 10p a litre
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Kevxx
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Exactly a big engine'd petrol car won't need much go, and mpg wont be too bad, petrols and diesels have common faults, i'd say it balances out, like i said before.
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pow
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quote: Originally posted by Eck
quote: Originally posted by pow
A 106 XSi is likely to be the next car I buy tbh
If that was sarcasm - 
If it was genuine -  :iloveyoumwah:
It's genuine.
I want a white 1.4 XSi soon to start messing around with cars, learning more how they work etc etc and to start getting some track experiance.
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corsa - gus
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For me it is much cheaper to run the 1.9tdi though as I do a hell of a miles over a year. If I was doing 10/12000 miles a year then I wouldn't grudge the £320 per year to run a petrol car. But it is more economical to have a derv if you do a lot of miles.
Also motorway driving is much more ennjoyable in the derv because it doesn't sound like you are sitting in a hairdryer when cruising at 75-80mph. When I had my sport it did my bloody head in driving it on the motorway
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pow
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There are ups and downs to both, but, at the moment, I am more than happy with my diesel.
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corsa - gus
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quote: Originally posted by corsa_nation
i'm going to have to join the Ibiza boys as i drive the same car. You still can't really match the power/economy/price combination we've got going on!
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Eck
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Dooo it mate They are only 875kg as standard, so with a wee bit of weight removal, you'll be sitting at 800 Couple that to decent suspension/brakes (can get brembos from a 406 Coupe, or for a cheaper fix, get a full 206 GTi brake system for £100-150), and lastly, 16v engine Fecking fly with brilliant handling (Have I sold you yet?)
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stubbsy05
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My car is used for commuting and I don't give a shit about it. I do 22k a year. The car cost £300.
My mate does the same mileage in his 1.2 corsa c sxi.
His Tax is cheaper than mine. Mine is £185 a year and his is obviously cheaper being a 51 plate 1.2
I'm just after the most economical/cheap car to run tbh. Am thinking another Peugeot 106 1.5 D would be a winner!
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pow
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I doubt I'd be upgrading the engine, some breather mods, de-cat and system - hearing something about the VTR inlet being less restrictive?
Then some decent brakes and better suspension and I'd be happy!
Ripping the interior out comes as standard, but I'll probably only replace it with some GTi cloths or something - not a money money money project.
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pow
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The 106 1.5 D pugs are god awful.
Just don't.
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Eck
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quote: Originally posted by corsa - gus
For me it is much cheaper to run the 1.9tdi though as I do a hell of a miles over a year. If I was doing 10/12000 miles a year then I wouldn't grudge the £320 per year to run a petrol car. But it is more economical to have a derv if you do a lot of miles.
Also motorway driving is much more ennjoyable in the derv because it doesn't sound like you are sitting in a hairdryer when cruising at 75-80mph. When I had my sport it did my bloody head in driving it on the motorway
It all depends on the person really. I do 15,000 miles a year going to and from work alone. Add that to hooning around and I easily do 20,000! And that's with no interior, crashy suspension, and no stereo to listen to either But I don't mind as it's great fun As I said, all down to the preference of the driver! Or the stupidity.
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Eck
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quote: Originally posted by pow
I doubt I'd be upgrading the engine, some breather mods, de-cat and system - hearing something about the VTR inlet being less restrictive?
Then some decent brakes and better suspension and I'd be happy!
Ripping the interior out comes as standard, but I'll probably only replace it with some GTi cloths or something - not a money money money project.
Replace the interior with nothing The seats are surprisingly supportive as standard. But I'm not sure about the VTR inlet... On VTR's, putting a Rallye inlet is better for response, so I'm guessing that will be the winner of the two. Great fun wee fookers If you stayed closer I'd of given you a shot of mine to sell you some more
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tom_simes
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quote: Originally posted by Eck
Or the stupidity.
You said it Alex, you said it.
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