Hammer
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Police in this country are good at matters like this imo, credit where credit is due.
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Ian
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
I just cant see how the police threatining to kill someone with a gun when theyre ready to die anyway would work.
Because he's rendered unable to detonate the bomb, hence the urgency in doing something. Generally if they're instructed to stop and they don't, they're a risk, hence the previous case.
This guy obviously got on the floor, which probably saved his life. Do as your're told, no problem.
The disappointment for me is the amount of faffing and expenditure afterwards.
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CorsAsh
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
I just cant see how the police threatining to kill someone with a gun when theyre ready to die anyway would work.
Better to try and fail than not try at all.
They believe in glory, these "humans", so will try to take as many people as possible. Odds are they will be singled out when challenged by attempting a run to a more crowded area. There is less glory if you don't take any "infidels" with you.
[Edited on 08-07-2008 by CorsAsh]
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Ian
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How did we both know that, would it be common sense 
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chris-sri
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It's pretty simple really - If you project weakness you draw aggression.
This has happened before in Policing situations an example being the decision not to pursue stolen motorcycles if the riders aren't wearing helmets. We are now faced with a generation of kids who know that the Police won't pursue them if they steal mopeds and the like as long as they don't wear helmets to the degree where they'll start a pursuit and take the helmet off half way through forcing the Officers to abort it.
Another example is where in days gone by Police Officers used to clip kids round the ear and take them home to their parents. Ask how your parents how many of them would have stood in the street f ing and jeffing at the Police and expected to get away with it.
We simply can't afford for this to happen with firearms incidents the consequences are too severe.
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CorsAsh
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Originally posted by Ian
How did we both know that, would it be common sense
No Ian, we're on a bandwagon.
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nova_gteuk
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Ye that damn common sense wagon again...tut.
Just seems to me all the police have to say is mistaken idenity and they can get away with murder.
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Ian
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Another one - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/7493404.stm
Guy gets done for DbDD for chasing people who didn't pay.
Make them crash, they won't steal again.
Drive in to kids on motorbikes and quads if they're not properly insured, they won't need it when they can't walk.
This country is too damn soft.
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CorsAsh
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Ye that damn common sense wagon again...tut.
Just seems to me all the police have to say is mistaken idenity and they can get away with murder.
 I don't think the Police have enough freedom to act in the interests of the greater good.
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Ian
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Just seems to me all the police have to say is mistaken idenity and they can get away with murder.
No one is disputing that it's a mistake, I'm sure they're very sorry but no one died, no one was even injured. It's a bloody difficult job and you need to consider that.
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ed
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Maybe we need a team of vigilantes to take on the cunts the Police are too scared to.
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nova_gteuk
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Just seems to me all the police have to say is mistaken idenity and they can get away with murder.
No one is disputing that it's a mistake, I'm sure they're very sorry but no one died, no one was even injured. It's a bloody difficult job and you need to consider that.
Yes but ian what if he didnt surrender to them,what would of happened then?
What if he didnt speak english, a load of people coming at me with guns in a strange country i think id run to and then id be shot in the process?
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Russ
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nova your being a dick. if policia say "stop" - with a gun drawn, you would
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Robin
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If someone shouts something at you, with a gun in their hand, in whatever language, you'd stop there and drop to the floor with your hands up.
If you didn't do that, you'd be stupid.
Not understanding the language is all the more reason to surrender, even if you're unsure, they're not going to be yelling "run, run away or we'll kill you" are they?
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chris-sri
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Ye that damn common sense wagon again...tut.
Just seems to me all the police have to say is mistaken idenity and they can get away with murder.
The bloke ran from armed Police into a tube station a few days after the 7/7 bombings! The Officers believed he was linked to a terrorist cell which everyone accepts was not the case. It was a tragic mistake but under the circumstances I challenge anyone to put their hand on their heart and say they wouldn't have pulled the trigger.
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ed
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Nova is a mercenary. He'll fight anyone who looks at him funny, then he'll set his crew on them too.
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Robin
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Also, you should be aware of the basics of the language in any country you visit so you know when someone's telling you to get on the floor with your hands up.
If you've not researched that and decide to run from someone with a firearm and a uniform, it's you're own fault.
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nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by chris-sri
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Ye that damn common sense wagon again...tut.
Just seems to me all the police have to say is mistaken idenity and they can get away with murder.
The bloke ran from armed Police into a tube station a few days after the 7/7 bombings! The Officers believed he was linked to a terrorist cell which everyone accepts was not the case. It was a tragic mistake but under the circumstances I challenge anyone to put their hand on their heart and say they wouldn't have pulled the trigger.
he didnt run from the police charles was running for the train,there was witnesses in the trial who even said he wasnt running from the police 
[Edited on 08-07-2008 by nova_gteuk]
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CorsAsh
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quote:
Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Ian
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Just seems to me all the police have to say is mistaken idenity and they can get away with murder.
No one is disputing that it's a mistake, I'm sure they're very sorry but no one died, no one was even injured. It's a bloody difficult job and you need to consider that.
Yes but ian what if he didnt surrender to them,what would of happened then?
What if he didnt speak english, a load of people coming at me with guns in a strange country i think id run to and then id be shot in the process?
If one of the Police pulled his gun on me here I'd shit myself and be on the floor in seconds.
If you don't, you're obviously too stupid to be allowed on the street.
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nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Russ
nova your being a dick. if policia say "stop" - with a gun drawn, you would
so if you cant understand or read english how would you know their police?
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CorsAsh
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by chris-sri
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Ye that damn common sense wagon again...tut.
Just seems to me all the police have to say is mistaken idenity and they can get away with murder.
The bloke ran from armed Police into a tube station a few days after the 7/7 bombings! The Officers believed he was linked to a terrorist cell which everyone accepts was not the case. It was a tragic mistake but under the circumstances I challenge anyone to put their hand on their heart and say they wouldn't have pulled the trigger.
he didnt run from the police charles was running from the police,there was witnesses in the trial who even said he wasnt running from the police
Make your bloody mind up.
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CorsAsh
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Russ
nova your being a dick. if policia say "stop" - with a gun drawn, you would
so if you cant understand or read english how would you know their police?
If you can't read or understand English, WHAT THE FUCK are you doing in England?
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ed
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If you didn't, bullet in the head in the name of Charles Darwin?
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nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by CorsAsh
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Russ
nova your being a dick. if policia say "stop" - with a gun drawn, you would
so if you cant understand or read english how would you know their police?
If you can't read or understand English, WHAT THE FUCK are you doing in England?
yes because the thousands of imigransts and tourists who cant read or speak english should be shot because they cant understand
sensible 
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nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by ed
Nova is a mercenary. He'll fight anyone who looks at him funny, then he'll set his crew on them too.
glad to see somone is mature 
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