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NovalutionGSi
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11th Jun 08 at 10:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but if everyone continued doing the same as they always have then the demand is the same! and if Shell have no fuel then go to another petrol station.....
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Originally posted by NovalutionGSi
So because Shell tanker drivers are striking it means that there is going to be no fuel...... umm ok! so that means that all the other companies are not going to delivery as well?? dont think so! Prices should stay the same with reguads the Pay strike, the only reason for the price to go up/down is a, price of Oil and b, A fat twat who thinks he can run the country but clearly he cant......


Haha you think prices are gunna stay the same?
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Shell deliver to more than just shell forecourts...dont they sell to some supermarkets too?

With this in mind, a fair few garages will be running low, pushing demand on other garages higher, and therefore pushing the price up.

Also, if Shell have to pay tanker drivers more to deliver the fuel, then the fuel will cost more to get from the refinery to your petrol tank...and where will this extra cost be placed? at the pumps

[Edited on 11-06-2008 by Planty02]
Ben G
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11th Jun 08 at 10:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i posted this last night.

6am friday-6am tuesday. all because they want more than a 6.25% pay rise

nothing to do with fuel prices. shouldn't affect me though as i filled my car up last night. will last me 2 weeks so it's all good

if it was a protest over fuel prices then it would be great, but it's just another way for the government to get more money.
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11th Jun 08 at 10:30   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd be joining it if it was a protest about fuel prices.
Ben G
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11th Jun 08 at 10:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

me too. but i wouldn't drive anywhere think it's pointless moaning about fuel prices then burning 2 tanks worth of petrol/diesel hitting your own pocket hard
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Originally posted by NovalutionGSi
So because Shell tanker drivers are striking it means that there is going to be no fuel...... umm ok! so that means that all the other companies are not going to delivery as well?? dont think so! Prices should stay the same with reguads the Pay strike, the only reason for the price to go up/down is a, price of Oil and b, A fat twat who thinks he can run the country but clearly he cant......


Haha you think prices are gunna stay the same?


Never said it would stay the same.....Forever!

If your company gives you a pay raise does your customer see a raise in product price? Mine certainly doesnt as we have charge out rates. in theory Tanker drivers wouuld be classed as an Overhead i guess therefore it should come out of thier Profit!

And yes i have also thought of joining in the protests as well!

[Edited on 11-06-2008 by NovalutionGSi]
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it's a bit different giving one person a pay rise in tesco's (which i very much doubt would make bread go up 1p or so) than giving every fuel tanker driver who works for shell a pay rise.

it would push prices up a little, couple pence per litre probably.

also, the panic buying and the press saying how bad this shortage is going to be will push prices up too.
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11th Jun 08 at 10:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

TBH is it ever going to stop? Are the government just gunna drive this country into the dark ages again by depriving them of fuel, food, heating, housing?
Ben G
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yes
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TBH is it ever going to stop? Are the government just gunna drive this country into the dark ages again by depriving them of fuel, food, heating, housing?


if you dont like this country......etc

but serisouly we do seem to be hit from every angle
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totally understand what your Saying Ben. but basically everything is coming back to the Price of fuel.

And i agree with you there as well POW! time to start working on the Chip Fat solutions to running cars!
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Originally posted by pow
Yeah, becuase a threat of shortage on the forecourt is just gunna make other companies go umm... money making oppertunitu.
All the oil companie shave been wanred that doing this wil result in severe financial penlaties
Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
i posted this last night.

6am friday-6am tuesday. all because they want more than a 6.25% pay rise

nothing to do with fuel prices. shouldn't affect me though as i filled my car up last night. will last me 2 weeks so it's all good

if it was a protest over fuel prices then it would be great, but it's just another way for the government to get more money.
They want THIRTY SIX THOUSAND POUNDS PER YEAR... just for delivering petrol, thieving fucks... Id pay em about £25k and tell em to lump it :/
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11th Jun 08 at 11:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

36k for driving?

Teachers are paid less than that. They can fuck off.
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Exactly! Yes they have to load/unload etc but my Ex's dad is an HGV driver who does as much if not mroe than what they do and is not on anywhere near that ludicrous amount

One point, I wonder if they claima large amoutn fo dange rmoney as part of their salary claims :/
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id drive for 25k a yr
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Yeah, becuase a threat of shortage on the forecourt is just gunna make other companies go umm... money making oppertunitu.
All the oil companie shave been wanred that doing this wil result in severe financial penlaties


Well last night when I filled up it was 1.14.9p/litre today its 1.21.9 a litre so go figure?
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Originally posted by pow
36k for driving?

Teachers are paid less than that. They can fuck off.


Quite often on the roads before you wake up to well after you go to bed so I think there more to it than the black and white picture you paint. Plus the risk of carrying highly volatile fuel?

Want to moan at people in regards to pay rises talk to the jockeys who work on the underground....

[Edited on 11-06-2008 by Fad]
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11th Jun 08 at 15:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Shell drivers are wanting a £2k pay rise, thats why their striking.

If everyone remains calm then their will be no shortage!!
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Want to moan at people in regards to pay rises talk to the jockeys who work on the underground....


No need for that is there?



Agreed with the fact they're working long hours and carrying pretty damn explosive contents so the pay reflects that.

I just filled up with £43. I'll be filling up again before the end of the week
Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
They want THIRTY SIX THOUSAND POUNDS PER YEAR... just for delivering petrol, thieving fucks... Id pay em about £25k and tell em to lump it :/


£36k isnt a huge wage these days, long hours, tough/skilled work (not anyone can do it!) danger aspect - you'd drive 100k a year with virtually a bomb attached to the back of you knowing at any moment you could be vaporised for any less

[Edited on 11-06-2008 by Colin]
John G
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I dont really see why people rush the pumps, if they continue to strike and my local petrol stations have no more petrol, which they always will, i just wont go anywhere, simple.
Robbo
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They get paid twice that of a Private working in Helmand Province... nuff said IMO
JamesMG
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as said its the distribution that cant cope atm not the manufacture.

Biggest issue i see is the government will keep tax / prices up so we start to reduce the amount we use and meanwhile railroad us into other 'better forms of energy' like electric cars etc. Shame really but we as a country just dont have the moral responsbility to look after our own country and that covers pretty much everything in the modern climate, littering, recycling and even eachother.. its crazy!



i honestly think its very unlikely we will see the prices come down for a very long time if at all..

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