andyc1234
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IvIarkgraham
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i have been watching 2 on ebay over the past few months but bottled out of buying them
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Robin
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Originally posted by Wrighty
ps wouldnt bother. theyre not all they rekon to be and still wont be even in a corsa b
What, you don't think 189bhp and 192lb/ft wouldn't be quite impressive in a car which weighs about 950kg, when the car which the engine comes from weighs nearly a third more and still manages to do 0-60 in under 7 seconds?
Even with a simple remap, if you bothered trying to get the standard management to work, you'd end up with 220bhp and 240lb/ft in a light car and believe me, that's not a recipe for a car which you'd call "not all they rekon to be" TBH.
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IvIarkgraham
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thank you robin
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Ian W
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Whats the benefit of using the VXR lump over a freshly rebuilt let or even z20let?
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IvIarkgraham
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its a lighter engine less likely to under steer round corners and also cheaper than buying a let and rebuilding it
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Robin
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Engine mounts are a piece of piss too, as the block is the same as a Corsa Sport.
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IvIarkgraham
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Engine mounts are a piece of piss too, as the block is the same as a Corsa Sport.
never knew that
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Robin
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Well, I say it's the same as a Corsa Sport one, it's similar, it's not an X16XE, it's a Z16XEL or something, but it's identical, structure wise.
I'd quite like to put one in a B.
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IvIarkgraham
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hmmm so to get it put in shouldnt be all that expensive?
the wiring would probably be the hardest part
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Robin
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Exhaust manifold might be an issue, as in, it might get in the way of the mount if you were to use an X16XE one, but it shouldn't be too hard to overcome, even if you had to fabricate a new mount it wouldn't be too bad, gearbox side it's easy as you could use an F15.
The wiring is only hard if you try to use the standard management, which I don't see the point in as it's not going to be as flexible as aftermarket.
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Nick-S
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quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
ps wouldnt bother. theyre not all they rekon to be and still wont be even in a corsa b
all ive got to say to that is 
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IvIarkgraham
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Exhaust manifold might be an issue, as in, it might get in the way of the mount if you were to use an X16XE one, but it shouldn't be too hard to overcome, even if you had to fabricate a new mount it wouldn't be too bad, gearbox side it's easy as you could use an F15.
The wiring is only hard if you try to use the standard management, which I don't see the point in as it's not going to be as flexible as aftermarket.
beardy said he can wire them in. and i wouldnt be using an f15 i'd use the m32
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Robin
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Mounts would become an issue then, you can't use the standard Corsa ones AFAIK.
Even if it is possible to use the standard management, I still don't see why you'd want to, it's an added complication which makes a relatively simple comversion a lot harder, for no gain. With aftermarket stuff, you can give the car 220bhp straight away, without having to mess around with an off the shelf 'remap'.
If you use an F15 and some aftermarket management, it should be an easyish conversion, that's all I'm saying, although I do agree about the M32.
[Edited on 16-05-2008 by Robin]
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IvIarkgraham
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yes mate i see what your saying but surely if you use after market management its still going to need mapped
i would only use aftermarket if the cost wasnt huge. eventually i'd probably step up to it
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Robin
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I reckon you'd spend as much having the standard management wired in, then a flash remap done to give you the same power as the aftermarket stuff, supplied, fitted and mapped, in fact, I'd be surprised if it didn't cost more to do it with the standard stuff.
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IvIarkgraham
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we'll see. im looking at buying an astra coupe instead but if i find a vxr engine i'll go for that instead
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Stu_22
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Are they alloy block as they bang on about light weight engine in the booklet
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Robin
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Nah
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gavin18787
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I want to see this done  someone get on the case
Drives supercharged Tec with torque 
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Ian
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There's still an X14XE in my garage if you actually want to get the car working again for real money not grands 
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lil_g
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quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
I want to see this done someone get on the case
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gavin18787
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get that money tree out greg
Might speak to warren he works for vauxhall, might be able to slip me one out the back door 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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taylorboosh
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wow robin is like some kind of car knowledge god
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lil_g
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I'll try gav! I'll see what prices are like compared to plan A 
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