SportBoy
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least your not in the motortrade .. which for the best part is on its arse
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DannyB
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Trades are the worst for foreigners taking over, as matt allready said they charge less so everyone uses them, even 5-10k less a year is alot more than they would earn where they come from.polish people are hard grafters too, quite alot of foreigners are so they allways get hired first as they work for tuppence, especially as labourers.
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Colin
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Originally posted by loo_goblin
As in my edit, Polish people arnt asylum seekers
They are immigrants & are taking jobs that UK people should be doing. There's not enough work out there, UK's only a tiny island compaired to the rest of europe......yet 100,000's of them get entry every year. The college I attend is packed out with them - some cant even speak english, they are a strain on the ecconomy. We should opperate a points system like Australia!
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Timbaland
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iv had 3 Polish guys working on ym house in the last 2 months and at the same time had 7 British workers aswell, And the 3 Polish done twice as much as the team of 7. FACT.
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pacman001001
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so is it of your opinion that if there were no people coming in looking for work then we would all be better off?
i think its more the fact that people flood in and can claim benifits, which the govn. pay. and getting translaters at schools and prisons, things like that.
but i do agree with the whole doing work for less business.
if i ran this mess of a place, id battern down the hatches and latch the doors. unless there was a prim and proper reason to be here. we are an island, we should use it to our advantage.
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loo_goblin
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i agree, alsyum seekers (afgans, nigerians, tibetans etc) do come here and put far too much pressure on services like NHS and housing, but i feel it has nowt to do with this recession.
As colin said people have been too quick to pay for the new tv on credit, the abroad holiday etc etc.
but its mostly the banks fault, for example 2 companies that we deal with have gone into insolvency but banks are more than happy to give them more money when they change there name by putting a UK, or European etc at the end of it.
One company took a £70,000 delivery of diesel on the thursday, on the friday declared bankruptcy, on the Monday started up again with a name change, and when shell went to get the fuel back as they wernt going to get paid for it, they couldnt get on to the land as it would be tresspassing. UK laws need to be changed so Bankruptcy etc are not soo easy, Germany you loose your houses everything until every one is paid off.
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loo_goblin
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Originally posted by SportyBoy
least your not in the motortrade .. which for the best part is on its arse
we repair trucks, we dont even have any straight out Hauliers as customers now, most of our customers are retailers who need lorries.
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DannyB
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Well considerin a large chunk of the uk budget gets spent on all these people coming over id say it pays a big part yes, as i said before if they didnt take our jobs more uk citizens would probably be in work, resulting in us not contributing as much towards this(maybe?)
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Colin
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Originally posted by Timbaland
iv had 3 Polish guys working on ym house in the last 2 months and at the same time had 7 British workers aswell, And the 3 Polish done twice as much as the team of 7. FACT.
My exerience was the oppoite, I was 1 week in a job as a Electrical Planner for the council, practically just out of college & found myself correcting a polish Sparks mistakes. He spoke very little english only nodded his head & smiled dispite the fact he had just been informed his work could kill children 
Highways had taken him on paying half what a UK worker would get & he thought he was a millionaire!!
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baza31
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I dont know all the in's and outs on it all but all as i can say is, a few years ago most people i know had a fair bit of disposable income.
Now all as i keep hearing is "am skint"
anyone checked out illuminati
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DannyB
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Theres a polish guy where i work and he can hardly understand anyone.Me personally, i dont take anything on credit, i have no credit card, nothing on finance and i allways pay for everything cash.If it takes me a while to save for it then so be it, id rather wait than be in debt.I have around 1100-1200 left over every month for myself so id like to keep it that way.
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Colin
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I was in the DVLA office before xmas & there was group of pol's there at booth 2 the whole hour I was qued waiting my turn, not understanding how they could not buy road tax for a car registered to someon else who doesnt lve in the county............a whole bloody hour, ended up having to bring a translator in & put them in a seperate room!! I bet they got around it aswell!!
Youve got to ask what this contries coming to!! 
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Mattb
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Originally posted by SportyBoy
least your not in the motortrade .. which for the best part is on its arse
It wont be long untill i see many places closing tbh..
We currently have 2 polish techs working for us, they cant do anything apart from PDI's and basic services, and cant speak much english.
Worst thing is our company like many others wont increase the basic salary of technicians, and are wondering why they cant find any techs willing to work for the crap pay they offer, so they have to get immigrants in from all over to try and fill in (badly)
I cant see it being long before hard working british nationals are out of jobs in favour of migrant labour
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DannyB
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Its shocking colin, like i said before there is 60+ polish people working at a big hotel near me, probably working for about 3 pound a hour which they are quite happy with.None of them will quit as they want the money badly and they wont get fired as they are hard workers and they get payed next to nothing.So theres 60 jobs the local village is loosing out to because of them.
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loo_goblin
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but could the hotel vaibly pay the wages of 60 english workers?
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DannyB
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The point is they are taking up jobs the local community should have, this country is soft as fuck and its only going to get worse.Its not a big place where i live either.
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mattk
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they must have done before all this shit started
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Colin
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Originally posted by loo_goblin
but could the hotel vaibly pay the wages of 60 english workers?
If the fecking pols hadnt invaded they would have no choice!!
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DannyB
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They get welcomed with open arms, money, jobs, housing etc while there are countless uk citizens on the dole, jobless, homeless.
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loo_goblin
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how has this turned from the recession to immigration?
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DannyB
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Because its a problem, and im guessing this is now more of a general discussion 
Fucking keyboard, another typo edit.
[Edited on 18-04-2008 by red_top]
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JM_16v
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The construction industry, i was talking to a ridgeons deisnged timber rep and they said jan and feb was thee busyiest start to the year ever but since then its been dead,
i work for a medium size housing developer were not really slowing down because we got alot of work in progress,
because people arent buying at the moment alot of companys money is tied up in housing that isnt selling so they cant build until they sell there current propertys
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Colin
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Originally posted by loo_goblin
how has this turned from the recession to immigration?
Just highlighting the problem!
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chris_rosso
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Mattk I know where your coming from with all the stuff about the polish doing the job for half the price. Being a QS i deal with lots of trades & companies and im starting to see more & more polish on the books of the subbies we use!!
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mattk
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Originally posted by JM_16v
The construction industry, i was talking to a ridgeons deisnged timber rep and they said jan and feb was thee busyiest start to the year ever but since then its been dead,
i work for a medium size housing developer were not really slowing down because we got alot of work in progress,
because people arent buying at the moment alot of companys money is tied up in housing that isnt selling so they cant build until they sell there current propertys
I dont know who you work for but it is rumoured RedRow sold 1 house last week
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