Fonz
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pow
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If your breaking it, let me know 
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James_DT
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Where's that road?
Cars like the 306, 106 and Saxo are well known for the stiffer rear end causing lift off oversteer. That said, it'll only catch you out about twice before you learn not to push it that hard.
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AK
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lift off over steer.... classic....
watch the vid 
http://www.trackscotland.co.uk/vid/pug/CRAIL_spin.avi
205 GTi
The rears are fine, you just have to know how to drive them. A corsa will do the same to a lesser extent.... almost any car will
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Dean B
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
or if your not prepared to counter act lift off oversteer
[Edited on 22-01-2008 by Steve]
More than likely what happened tbh, i wernt driving hard, or fast at all. I was on my way home from work. I wernt pushing the car at all, reason being when i do, i know how to take it. I didn't expect it to kick out so i was to late to counter it, and control it, thus ending the way it did. Too many nobber on this forum tbh.
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Steve
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im not a nobber tbph
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Dean B
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Originally posted by Steve
im not a nobber tbph
Didn't mean you Steve, it was aimed at people who clain to know what happened by just seeing a car in a ditch.
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thegsi
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Just bad luck mate. Thats the thing with the roads, anything can happen
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16vKarlos
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean B
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Originally posted by Steve
im not a nobber tbph
Didn't mean you Steve, it was aimed at people who clain to know what happened by just seeing a car in a ditch.
^^^^
Agreed!!!!
hope all gets sorted matey and im sure it will be alright
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Bonney
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Looks like it could have been nasty that, at least your ok
Looks like there was a copper at the scene who overuses the police tape by the looks of it
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James_DT
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
lift off over steer.... classic....
Well, it's what I always assumed it was. The behaviour, whatever it is, is certainly a trait of those cars.
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Dean B
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quote:
Originally posted by James_DT
quote:
Originally posted by AK
lift off over steer.... classic....
Well, it's what I always assumed it was. The behaviour, whatever it is, is certainly a trait of those cars.
How can you assume something, without seeing, or even really knowing the circumstances. I find it unbeliveable tbh. I never asked ' What do you think happened '
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Adam-D
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gutted, hope the chasis is straight still and its fixed, im not a fan of these but i know what they can do and itd be a shame to lose it,
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Dean B
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Thanks for the positive comments . As far as the chasis being straight, i'll fine out tommorrow, had a mate look over it, he works at a accident repair centre, he seems happy enough, the slam panel needs replacing, but it's going up on the ramp for a better inspection tomorrow.
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Fad
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Just not a forgiving car. I always found these cars to be brilliant in the dry but very very skittish and unpredictable in damp conditions.
Sounds like classic lift off oversteer though!
Unucky sure you've learnt a valuable lesson.
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Adam-D
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hope its ok, i mean no one would want thier car twisted. no matter what car it is.
i mean, im driving a modeo estate atm. but i wouldn't want it damaged
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James_DT
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean B
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Originally posted by James_DT
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Originally posted by AK
lift off over steer.... classic....
Well, it's what I always assumed it was. The behaviour, whatever it is, is certainly a trait of those cars.
How can you assume something, without seeing, or even really knowing the circumstances. I find it unbeliveable tbh. I never asked ' What do you think happened '
I'm not even talking about your accident. Someone said something about 106s and Saxos having twitchy rear ends and I was following on from that. Infact, when I said 'I always assumed' I was referring to when my 306 first caught me out. I didn't mention your accident once, because, as you stated, I don't know the circumstances.
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean B
How can you assume something, without seeing, or even really knowing the circumstances. I find it unbeliveable tbh. I never asked ' What do you think happened '
I'm assuming something because you clearly dont know what happened... what else can one do 
I'm not having a go at you. It's not a personal attack.... so calm down
Its just a classic lift off oversteer accident.
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corsa_rob
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awww shite! u only posted about this the other day saying u had one...im buying a saxo vts at the moment...bye bye corsa... hello "lift off oversteer" sounds like a special move on a game...glad ure ok mate that is allways the main thing! cant see the car being straight my missus hit a kerb at about 40mph and bent the subframe on her clio! good luck though mate...let me know wot goes on 
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Adam-D
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corsa lift off oversteer's just as much my friend.
im quite good at initiating it and making the wee bugger drift.
and before someone has a go. ive owned a s12 and s13 so i know the difference between drifting front and rear drive cars.....
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ainsley_brader
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean B
Still don't know what happened for sure, know the road very well,
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Originally posted by Dean B
its a bad roads, loads of people stack it there,
......didnt feel like over steer.
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Originally posted by Dean B
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
or if your not prepared to counter act lift off oversteer
[Edited on 22-01-2008 by Steve]
More than likely what happened tbh,
........ Too many nobber on this forum tbh.
So you know the road really well and theres loads of people crash there but you still take the corner to fast.
Everybody suggests its oversteer and you say it isnt, then Steves says it is and suddenly it is!
Think you need to chill and stop calling everybody else Nobbers!
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Dean B
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I took the corner too fast? CLeary, as i forgot you were there. Idiot, why is it whenever accidents happen, it's always down to speeding. I never said it wasn't oversteer at all, i said i was't driving fast to cause it, i said IF it was oversteer it was casued un knowingly,not driving like a cock, which is why i couldn't correct it. I need to calm down, bad day at work?
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Andrew
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You must be gutted mate Sorry to hear your loss.
Could have been a bit of black ice.
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Jas
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quote:
Originally posted by James_DT
Where's that road?
Cars like the 306, 106 and Saxo are well known for the stiffer rear end causing lift off oversteer. That said, it'll only catch you out about twice before you learn not to push it that hard.
I think thats true tbh... i got caught out a couple of times and learn t well from it, i was able to push cars with much more power etc once used to it and knew its limits 
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VegasPhil
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A mate spun his GTi one night randomly. He was totally suprised when it happened as it felt like it had more to go...
Mate also did the same in a Clio, and I watched a mate in another Clio do the same. All in wet/damp conditions.
Goes to show they can be a bit skittish in damp weather
Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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