RichR
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OH MY DEAR GOD - How many times does this need posting!
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Marc
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More times.
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RichR
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until everyone is so sick of it that they purposefully purchase from Esso and BP? 
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RichR
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The change that SHOULD happen is that the VAT should not be paid on the duty; essentially you're paying tax for the right to be taxed.
Essentially whenever the Chancellor puts up Fuel Duty by 2p; seems to be every year; the actualy revenue increase is 2p + 17.5%; or 2.35p. This may not sound like a lot, but it seems a little unfair to tax tax. The VAT should be on the fuel element alone, not on the duty as well.
However if they don't get it from fuel, they'll only put tax up else where
[Edited on 18-01-2008 by LiVe LeE]
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Jodi_the_g
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Yeah but US prices are still far far cheaper than UK's, exch rates and RON differences aside!!!!
Exchange rates can not really be taken into account as if you live there you pay in the own currency, it just appears cheaper against a weaker doller.
It works out to about 0.76 cents per Litre.
The only reason fuel in the UK is high is the tax nothing to do with the petrol stations selling it
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RichR
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nor the oil companies producing it 
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Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Yeah but US prices are still far far cheaper than UK's, exch rates and RON differences aside!!!!
Exchange rates can not really be taken into account as if you live there you pay in the own currency, it just appears cheaper against a weaker doller.
It works out to about 0.76 cents per Litre.
The only reason fuel in the UK is high is the tax nothing to do with the petrol stations selling it
Indeed, I wasnt questioning that
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Jodi_the_g
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quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
nor the oil companies producing it
Agreed the only people who will reduce the price of Petrol is the goverment
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Jodi_the_g
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Yeah but US prices are still far far cheaper than UK's, exch rates and RON differences aside!!!!
Exchange rates can not really be taken into account as if you live there you pay in the own currency, it just appears cheaper against a weaker doller.
It works out to about 0.76 cents per Litre.
The only reason fuel in the UK is high is the tax nothing to do with the petrol stations selling it
Indeed, I wasnt questioning that
Just saying its not that much cheaper in local currency for a cheaper product.
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DYL
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cheapest round here 1.04
[Edited on 18-01-2008 by DYL]
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DarkBahamut
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The good old 'The US is onlt 80 octane' excuse again 
No it isnt, the UK and US work out the 'octane' rating in two different ways that are not directly comparible.
The UK uses RON, the US uses AKI (RON+MON/2).
US fuels range from 87-92 ish AKI. 90 AKI is around RON 95.
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All Torque
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I know a county garage near me that sells 98p petrol 
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Jodi_the_g
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quote:
Originally posted by DarkBahamut
The good old 'The US is onlt 80 octane' excuse again
No it isnt, the UK and US work out the 'octane' rating in two different ways that are not directly comparible.
The UK uses RON, the US uses AKI (RON+MON/2).
US fuels range from 87-92 ish AKI. 90 AKI is around RON 95.
Your right, I never knew that but when I saw 80 at the petrol station I thought shit that low.
Although the point, I was trying to make is fuel is not that much cheaper in local currency which is what people earn in the country where they buy it.
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SVM 286
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quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
I thought youmight be it just pissed me off as you can't compair the prices as total different product.
Japan pay more money for they fuel than us as do Holland but no one ever brings them up.
The Japs and the Hollish probably have higher standards of living than us and fuel costs may well impact less so on their day to day living.
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Colin
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Nothing will ever happen, if people stopped buying from shell & BP they wouldnt care too much as they make 99% of their money from the extraction, metering & production of fine chemicals & hydrocarbon products. I remember hearing BP makes more money selling consumable goods in their petrol stations that they do with the fuel. The squeeze needs to be put on the government but that would be very difficult/impossible & as said if they moved tax from fuel they would just lump it on somewhere else.....they cannot afford to take the loss!
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Bez_SXi
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109.9 FTW 
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Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
i paid £1.03 for mine 2 days ago so i say to you....
F-O
like i've always said, no one forces you to pay it...SO GET OVER IT 
This is coming from a guy that earns 30k a year and lives at home. Try earning half that, using 60 litres of fuel per week and having to pay for your own place.
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Andrew
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I don't mind paying £1 a litre, that's fine. But they prices are getting stupid!
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ClaireF
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Wont work. Repost. End of thread.
yes put some people might not of seen this thread so not a repost for some.
(as this was said when i wrote repost in a thread pmsl)
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ClaireF
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
I don't mind paying £1 a litre, that's fine. But they prices are getting stupid!
we pay over a pound over here
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by ClaireF
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Wont work. Repost. End of thread.
yes put some people might not of seen this thread so not a repost for some.
(as this was said when i wrote repost in a thread pmsl)
Ahhh...next time I shall U2U every member asking if they have seen a report before informing the poster.
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Kurt
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should be an instant ban for anyone stupid enough to post this imho...
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charlessurr
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Today i Paid 103.9p per litre! not even premium!
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AlunJ
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f**kin £1.07 a litre for bog standard diesel round my local shell, every day it seems to have got up a bit
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mattk
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
like i've always said, no one forces you to pay it...SO GET OVER IT
This comment Fucking pisses me off!
how am I not forced to pay it when I have a van with half a ton of tools a boiler 8 radiators, a bathroom suite and 3 men to move 40 miles
Should I stick it all on the fucking train?
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