jr
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speak to R1CH about EDS generic maps, he's has some intresting opinions on the iirc 
2 things rob
you went to regal
and will you ever use the extra power etc 
xxx
jr
[Edited on 16-01-2008 by jr]
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Rob R
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2 things Jr...car and engine....will you ever put them together?!
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
Hmm is it just me that finds it strange that Regal (who im led to belive) is a Vaux tuner yet they have opted for a VW track car 
Anyway car looks tidy 
They're not, never have been and never will be solely a Vauxhall tuner.
The Golf was built by them for someone they know to race in the VW cup, to replace the Beetle they built before, I heard it's now being replaced by a Porsche 997 GT3 to race in the Porsche Trophy.
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gavin18787
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lolwned
good come back
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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jr
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they are temp seperated, hoping to love each other again some time soon
Rob, get yourself, joe, jammo etc intrested in the rolling road day, its a brillaint place with an amazing reputation
all in south east
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gavin18787
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tbh until I looked at the map jr I assumed it was miles away
Should be a good day out
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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jr
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it is a little trip, no worse than going the other way to EA
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gavin18787
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From people ive spoken to this place has a very good rep so im prepared to travel. Plus there was an offer of bacon rolls been inclusive
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Adam_B
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Do they actually physicly add anyhting to the car with this EDS sofware? or do they plug the car into a computer and change things around? Im not being an arse, i've just never looked into re-maps on cars and stuff but its something i will more than likely be doing on my VX220 with the same engine.
How much does a live map cost, so its setup for a specific vehicle?
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cunningham
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whats the spec rob my mates got a GSi aswell his turbo failed so replaced it with a vxr turbo as it was cheaper thats all he had done it made 212.3bhp on rr before this happend what should be his next steps?
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Rob R
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spec for stage 2 is precat replacement pipe, front mount intercooler and at least a cat back exhaust, i've got a full turbo back on mine though including sports cat.
if your mate allready has a vxr turbo then with a precat, exhaust and intercooler he'd be looking at 270bhp with a remap and about 300 ftlb of torque. add vxr injectors and air flow then somewhere around that magical 300bhp mark
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R1CH
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Should hit over 300 with that spec Rob
Most ive seen is 317bhp on mine, but apparently the vxr wont do over 300bhp!! hmmm
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R1CH
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Engine :-
LEH Turbo
LEH Injectors
LEH AFM
Courtenay FMIC
Courtenay Sports Cat
Courtenay Precat
Crossover pipe removed
Custom made surround for Air filter
Blitz Air Filter
Miltek Cat back
Custom phase 3 map from EDS
312BHP 383ft/lbs Torque
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Rob R
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Car looks excellent Rich, looks like...mine!
Where's the breather pipe coming off the bottom right hand side of the engine though?
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R1CH
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its there! was changing it for a samco one at the time!
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VegasPhil
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Fancy seeing the usual Regal comments 
Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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drbeansri
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i want a gsi next.... there amazing cars.
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BeArDy
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The way these work is :-
EDS germany do the maps
EDS Email the files to Regal
Regal uploads the files to your ECU
Job Done
Regal do not know what really go's into the maps or what they change. Arno is the man who writes alot of the maps an comes over every now and again to regal so thats the best time to get your car done.
Alot of the lads fro Z20LET Owners drove over the EDS to have there maps done.
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Adam_B
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someones making a shit load of money
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BeArDy
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Funny thing is you can buy the Emails from less that want a upload will cost you
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pow
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That arden astra (old shape) is pure sex
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Dave A
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I have done a lot of work on Generic maps recently, What I have found is that generic maps (i.e a map that is not written for that precise car but more of a 1 size fits all option) are often written to be a very safe map.
the fuelling is often rather close to optimum, but its the ignition timing where 90% of the extra power comes from. The closer you run your ignition timing to its optimum figure, (measured in degrees before top dead cente) the more power you make. but at the same time if you go past this optimum figure then you run into detonation or 'engine knock' which will kill an engine in seconds.
so to avoid this problem a generic map runs a very safe level of ignition advance, and hence, will make less power than a custom live map or aftermarket ecu would make.
Also, even a generic map once uploaded should also be checked over on the dyno or during a test drive to check for Det or engine knock using a det detection device. This is why most people dont want their cars remap done in a carpark at their work or outside their house on a sundat afternoon by some bloke with a laptop.
the only time it is safe to load up a generic map without using det detection devices is on a diesel as they dont rely on ignition timing.
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jr
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shocker  agree with dave on every point
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pow
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
shocker agree with dave on every point
well done Jr, you are starting to see sense
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