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SAL
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Originally posted by Stavs
why did you do the dblias conversion in the first place ? would it not of been better starting with a z-let and working upwards on that ?

i find it hard to belive the 1.8 which is 123 standard could get that kind of power as shown on your graph



have you even read what he's done?


errr yeh why ?
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What is the full spec on thiS?

cars lookin awesome
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Originally posted by TheCam
What is the full spec on thiS?

cars lookin awesome


Im off work after today so will aim to get the full spec up for you all then!

[Edited on 17-12-2007 by black_sri_turbo]
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Might be there sat mate, ill look out for you if i am
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quote:
Originally posted by Stavs
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Originally posted by Edd
quote:
Originally posted by Stavs
why did you do the dblias conversion in the first place ? would it not of been better starting with a z-let and working upwards on that ?

i find it hard to belive the 1.8 which is 123 standard could get that kind of power as shown on your graph



have you even read what he's done?


errr yeh why ?



why doubt his figures then its not as if its standard is it
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quote:
Originally posted by Edd
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Originally posted by Stavs
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
quote:
Originally posted by Stavs
why did you do the dblias conversion in the first place ? would it not of been better starting with a z-let and working upwards on that ?

i find it hard to belive the 1.8 which is 123 standard could get that kind of power as shown on your graph



have you even read what he's done?


errr yeh why ?



why doubt his figures then its not as if its standard is it


at what point am i doing so ? i said "ITS HARD TO BELIVE THE 1.8 CAN GET THAT POWER.."

not i dont belive your car gets that power...
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fight.
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tbh if a 2.0 can get 440bhp then i don't see why a 1.8 couldn't get 290bhp
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very true
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impressive

would love a go in it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
tbh if a 2.0 can get 440bhp then i don't see why a 1.8 couldn't get 290bhp


Actually there is a guy in Australia called tony who has about 460WHP out of the Z18XE engine in his corsa C!!!
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Sweeeeeeeet!

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Yeah i like that End of the day even if it's making 250 brake it will beat a hell of a lot of cars.
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No the reason why every questions the power number is because all regal do is bolt on a turbo and say you get stupid power.
I know the lad from Australia he is a good mate of mine and we talk alot, he has made massive power BUT if you look at his engine spec you can see why EVERYTHING inside the engine has been changed pistons rods crank oversized valves etc plus he is running a GT35R turbo where the regal kits come with small turbos.

Please post a spec of the engine and then i will pass my veiws, i am not saying you can not made 300bhp from a 1.8 as i have seen R5 Turbos make 400bhp.
But when you read the regal site all you get is basic a bolt on turbo and theres no talk of internal mods its very hard to understand.

I would like to see you car of DaveA's rollers.

Also just reading on DBilas website -
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How much boost pressure do the turbo-systems work with?

The systems work with 0.5 to 0.6 bar boost pressure

Is the compression ratio of the engine with the turbo-systems reduced? Must an intermediate plate be used?

No. The compression ratio remains standard. The engine is not opened, so also no intermediate plate is used




290bhp quoted power
123bhp Standard power
167bhp increase by bolting on a turbo

[Edited on 17-12-2007 by BeArDy]
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link to web site Mr Beardy
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http://www.dbilas.de/dbilas_eng/index.htm
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treid to find that site ages ago
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that an lcr splitter? any closer pics of how that fits across the middle?

seen some quite bad attempts although that doesnt look so bad


mine fits the same steve even got mine bolted up in the middle at its weakest point

[Edited on 17-12-2007 by RS6]
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People who are questioning this.
Take a XE block and head, then bolt all the LET bits on (Turbo, injectors etc) your not going to be able to get 167bhp increase of power otherwise everyone would be doing it as it would give you 317bhp.
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thing is Adam, 95% or more of the people reading this wont understand why boost levels and compression ratios make a difference.

basic engine mathematics say that with standard compression and that level of boost you wont see a real 300 bhp.
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17th Dec 07 at 16:28   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

94% dave, i understand
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however, with a lower C/R and stronger internals etc... it can be done without a doubt. not with a bolt on kit.
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black_sri_turbo - What you should do is take you car to Dave A's i am sure he would give you a free power run. Find out by a indpendent RR what power it is running. IF there is a massive differance contact trading standards as regal have sold you a item under false pretense and see weather you can clame so money back as i am sure regal would of charged you a arm and a leg.....
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I would do a free run just to finalise this argument about the 1.8 turbo figures. but im over 200 miles away from the lad.

I can however arrange a free power run at a local place with a dyno dynamics dyno if you want?
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Rite guys, the clue was in my 1st post!!

Dbilas Stage 2 turbo conversion.


I allready had the original one over a year ago (i was the 2nd one to have one done). I know have the stage 2 which consists of Low comp pistons, steel rods etc... and a larger modifeid turbo from original. I have also had my head proted and polished by a chap called Neil Roper.
The car also had fitted at the the same time a sachs paddle clutch and quiafe atb/lsd.

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