James_DT
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Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
If you cant afford to put fuel in your car dont drive, quite a simple one realy that
It really isn't. Where I live, I NEED my car to get to work or anywhere that isn't a small village surrounded by fields.
I can easily afford to run my car, but that doesn't mean I don't care that the cost of fuel keeps going up.
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Adam_B
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Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
If you cant afford to put fuel in your car dont drive, quite a simple one realy that
yes thats great and all but when fuel costs go up so does everything else.
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nova_gteuk
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Maybe people should start blockading estate agents.
ive never really cared about petrol prices,i love driving so im willing to pay whatever it costs to be honest,but house prices i cant even afford a mortgage on my own 
And to be fair anyone imo is lucky to have a car. a lot of people in this world cant afford to eat let alone have a luxury such as a car.
Im moving to costa del sol in 2009 hopefully  so chepa houses and cheap petrol  so i can put up with it
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Maybe people should start blockading estate agents.
ive never really cared about petrol prices,i love driving so im willing to pay whatever it costs to be honest,but house prices i cant even afford a mortgage on my own
And to be fair anyone imo is lucky to have a car. a lot of people in this world cant afford to eat let alone have a luxury such as a car.
Im moving to costa del sol in 2009 hopefully so chepa houses and cheap petrol so i can put up with it
the difference is house prickets are largely determined by the market, not by a robbing government
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Fro
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I've got a couple of spare barrels so i should be fine 
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davcohen
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im amazed that some people here dont actually care about the price of fuel, it is far to expensive and as i always say why cant we enjoy our 4 cylinder cars which are fairly economical while most american's get to drive big lumps of pink iron being pulled along by a 5mpg 150bhp v8
it should be the other way round we should have cheaper fuel and they should be charged up the ass for using 2-3 times more then they really need to for any journey
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RichR
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The major problem with Petrol price is the 65% Tax and VAT levy on top of the cost of production and supply.
Unfortunately if the general public want things like the NHS, a relatively well maintatined, non-tolled road network, free education for all, various othe rbenefits of living in the democracy we live in the money has to come from somewhere. It the billions of pounds in revenue raised every year from fuel and road tax is lost, the government would have to find another way of ensuring its income. Higher VAT rates, higher council and income taxes, higher national insurance.
The money will come from somewhere and you'll end up paying it anyway so whats the point in getting them to change the fuel levy?
Furthermore remember inflation will pay a big part, 2-3p per year is to be expected in all fairness. The cost of production of fuel is hit by the warfare which happens in the some of the OPEC memeber countries and they all charge the same price, so cost increases in one and all increase to the same level per barrel
[Edited on 10-12-2007 by LiVe LeE]
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VegasPhil
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I'm ready for the protests
Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
The major problem with Petrol price is the 65% Tax and VAT levy on top of the cost of production and supply.
Unfortunately if the general public want things like the NHS, a relatively well maintatined, non-tolled road network, free education for all, various othe rbenefits of living in the democracy we live in the money has to come from somewhere. It the billions of pounds in revenue raised every year from fuel and road tax is lost, the government would have to find another way of ensuring its income. Higher VAT rates, higher council and income taxes, higher national insurance.
The money will come from somewhere and you'll end up paying it anyway so whats the point in getting them to change the fuel levy?
Furthermore remember inflation will pay a big part, 2-3p per year is to be expected in all fairness. The cost of production of fuel is hit by the warfare which happens in the some of the OPEC memeber countries and they all charge the same price, so cost increases in one and all increase to the same level per barrel
[Edited on 10-12-2007 by LiVe LeE]
other then that though, the plane will take off ?
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RichR
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if the tyres lose traction 
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RichR
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Americans may have huge gas guzzling trucks but they have to pay for health care privately and most of the major routes are toll roads - everything is privately run so you have a potentially higher cost out of your net income
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luke85
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The amount of tax on fuel is ridiculous, yes we need to pay for the NHS and schools and wars in foriegn countries but why should the motorist be paying for all of that? That money should be paid more fairly between us all rather than taxing the living hell out of people who do a lot of miles. the government make 44 billion a year from the motorist (fuel tax, road tax etc) and only 7 billion makes it back into the roads, thats why i have to sit in traffic for hours on a friday afternoon on the M1. Bring on the protests!
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mattk
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doubt my local will run out of red anyway 
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JinThaMC
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Originally posted by luke85
The amount of tax on fuel is ridiculous, yes we need to pay for the NHS and schools and wars in foriegn countries but why should the motorist be paying for all of that? That money should be paid more fairly between us all rather than taxing the living hell out of people who do a lot of miles. the government make 44 billion a year from the motorist (fuel tax, road tax etc) and only 7 billion makes it back into the roads, thats why i have to sit in traffic for hours on a friday afternoon on the M1. Bring on the protests!
Fairly between us all?
I ain't paying tax for you to go cruising. I pay what I use, simple
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Steve
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corsa-sxi
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thats a good point
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Colin
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Originally posted by mattk
doubt my local will run out of red anyway
I wouldnt be openly admitting that I use red diesel in a car on a puplic forum tbh......thats an awfy expensive punto to be having taken off you
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luke85
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quote:
Originally posted by JinThaMC
quote:
Originally posted by luke85
The amount of tax on fuel is ridiculous, yes we need to pay for the NHS and schools and wars in foriegn countries but why should the motorist be paying for all of that? That money should be paid more fairly between us all rather than taxing the living hell out of people who do a lot of miles. the government make 44 billion a year from the motorist (fuel tax, road tax etc) and only 7 billion makes it back into the roads, thats why i have to sit in traffic for hours on a friday afternoon on the M1. Bring on the protests!
Fairly between us all?
I ain't paying tax for you to go cruising. I pay what I use, simple
1) I dont go cruising anyway but 2) I dont mind paying a fair tax for fuel, I dont expect anyone to put money towards my fuel tax and thats the point. I want to pay for what I use as well, why should someone who does more miles pay more for the war in Iraq than someone who doesnt drive?
And how would a slight cut in the fuel tax result in you somehow "paying for me to go cruising"?
[Edited on 11-12-2007 by luke85]
[Edited on 11-12-2007 by luke85]
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mattk
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i dont use red deisel
tempting though.....
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John
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If you need to use our nhs there is a good chance you come out with more than you went in with, and as for roads, the tax certainly isn't used maintaining them is it.
The benifts as lee is calling them are getting less and less every day, unless you are actually on benefits of course.
If the country was ran a bit better they wouldn't need to tax as much so thats not a good enough reason for me personally.
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Steve
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Originally posted by John
If you need to use our nhs there is a good chance you come out with more than you went in with, and as for roads, the tax certainly isn't used maintaining them is it.
The benifts as lee is calling them are getting less and less every day, unless you are actually on benefits of course.
If the country was ran a bit better they wouldn't need to tax as much so thats not a good enough reason for me personally.
fully agree
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G11_VTS
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I dont really mind the price of petrol tbh, yeah its expensive but I need it to get to work everyday, so I bought a diesel should even out a bit lol!
I am more concerned about the fact fag prices went up so much in the last 3 years!!!!
I remember being able to buy 20 for £3.99 now its £5.70 in some places! Now that is crazy ( comon the duty free lol! )
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Colin
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Fuel goes up at the same rate as everything else we consume. Yet you dont get folk blocking off Tesco because Mars Bars used to be 20p
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Colin
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I 100% believe this hike is just a taster of whats to come. Oil is going to become increasingly difficult to drill for, smaller oil reserves are going to push up exploration costs....the price of a barrel of crude is going to hit the fucking roof. Might aswell get used to it tbh because its never going to get any better....you heard it here 1st!
Who genuinelly thinks they will still drive a motor car in 30-40yrs time that uses fossel fuel??
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G11_VTS
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True colin, its all to do with the growing economy, I wish it wasnt the way it is but at the end of the day I would rather pay a little extra on fuel than not have the luxuries we have, but dont appreciate! Eg - Schools, hospitals, Dentists! Noone really thinks about the things we get they just moan lol!
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