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It's not copulsory Steve, but 99% of 4 year olds believe it, and the parent of the 1% of kids who don't should respect the fact that the rest do, not laugh when it's mentioned.
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Greg_M
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Originally posted by loubielou She is now talking about making a complaint because she feels he has ruined it for her son and possibly the other children who were there.
why not sue
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sam-smith
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my mum had my little sisters beliveing in the easter bunny til about 10, obviously being an older brother (they live in austrailia so i dont get to ruin these things) as soon as i seen them at easter that shit was out the window
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Greg_M
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Originally posted by Robin
It's not copulsory Steve, but 99% of 4 year olds believe it, and the parent of the 1% of kids who don't should respect the fact that the rest do, not laugh when it's mentioned.
farthe hasnt done anything wrong. just told his kid its not real. wheres the issue?
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Cosmo
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I figured it out when I was 5 or 6, after having doubts anyway and then seeing my Dad putting the presents out 
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chris-sri
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I can't see why any parent wouldn't want their kids to join in the fun. They'll grow up and become cynical themselves quick enough without any help from us.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Greg_M
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Originally posted by Robin
It's not copulsory Steve, but 99% of 4 year olds believe it, and the parent of the 1% of kids who don't should respect the fact that the rest do, not laugh when it's mentioned.
farthe hasnt done anything wrong. just told his kid its not real. wheres the issue?
exactly. OK its not great for the kid as is great to have something to beleive in like that, but if he doesnt want his kids thinking some fat man with a beard brings them presents once a year then he doesnt have to.
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Robin
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Originally posted by Greg_M
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Originally posted by Robin
It's not copulsory Steve, but 99% of 4 year olds believe it, and the parent of the 1% of kids who don't should respect the fact that the rest do, not laugh when it's mentioned.
farthe hasnt done anything wrong. just told his kid its not real. wheres the issue?
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I explained what had happened and his dad just laughed.
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Cosmo
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I can't see why any parent wouldn't want their kids to join in the fun. They'll grow up and become cynical themselves quick enough without any help from us.
Someone who used to work with my sister used to staple the receipts for their presents on the boxes so they knew how much had been spent on them so had to be grateful
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Robin
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exactly. OK its not great for the kid as is great to have something to beleive in like that, but if he doesnt want his kids thinking some fat man with a beard brings them presents once a year then he doesnt have to.
He should still respect the fact that other parents might want theirs to
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RS6
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theres always one kid + an anoyingly depressing parent, that have to spoil it for all the others, let the kid stay at home with his dad that day while everyone else has there fun 
[Edited on 05-12-2007 by RS6]
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Robin
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exactly. OK its not great for the kid as is great to have something to beleive in like that, but if he doesnt want his kids thinking some fat man with a beard brings them presents once a year then he doesnt have to.
He should still respect the fact that other parents might want theirs to
Why? So he cant bring his kids up how he wants as it may step on the toes of how others want to bring theirs up?
So next you'll be saying we all have to say God is real, as if not our kids may annoy those parents who do beleive and want their kids to aswell.
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Greg_M
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I explained what had happened and his dad just laughed.
so what, id laugh if a teacher had a 'quiet word' with me over such a stupid issue
telling him that father christmas isnt real, which last time i checked, was the truth.
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Steve
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the issue is the kid going around saying stuff, not the way the father is choosing to bring them up.
its like someone saying you've got to go to church on sundays if you attend a c of e school
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RS6
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the point is when your young i.e 4 years old surely its nice to belive that father christmas is coming?,
but oh know the dad that laughs about the whole issue shoots his sons dreams down in a ball of flames saying theres no such thing as father christmas its all fake, and im the one who buys the presents
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loubielou
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theyre 3 and 4 years old!!! no problem if he doesnt want his son to believe in it but why ruin it for the others? i think it was rude that the dad laughed as he asked me to respect his choices which i said i did but he must respect others
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Robin
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exactly. OK its not great for the kid as is great to have something to beleive in like that, but if he doesnt want his kids thinking some fat man with a beard brings them presents once a year then he doesnt have to.
He should still respect the fact that other parents might want theirs to
Why? So he cant bring his kids up how he wants as it may step on the toes of how others want to bring theirs up?
So next you'll be saying we all have to say God is real, as if not our kids may annoy those parents who do beleive and want their kids to aswell.
No, just don't say God isn't real.
He can do WTF he wants with his kids, but he could have told his son not to mention it in front of other kids, instead of ruining if for loads of them.
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Originally posted by loubielou
theyre 3 and 4 years old!!! no problem if he doesnt want his son to believe in it but why ruin it for the others? i think it was rude that the dad laughed as he asked me to respect his choices which i said i did but he must respect others
be fair though the dad hasnt gone round saying things, the child has, what did you ask him to do? just tell his son to shut up or totally confuse the child by pretending he does exist?
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by RS6
the point is when your young i.e 4 years old surely its nice to belive that father christmas is coming?,
but oh know the dad that laughs about the whole issue shoots his sons dreams down in a ball of flames saying theres no such thing as father christmas its all fake, and im the one who buys the presents
actually, its probably less of a dramatic situation (not that I ever think its that drastic finding out Santa isnt real) finding out young that he doesnt exist, rather than go through life (say until you're 10) and then being told you were lied to by all those around you.
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Originally posted by loubielou
theyre 3 and 4 years old!!! no problem if he doesnt want his son to believe in it but why ruin it for the others? i think it was rude that the dad laughed as he asked me to respect his choices which i said i did but he must respect others
Class it as bullying and get him expelled
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Cosmo
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No, just don't say God isn't real.
He can do WTF he wants with his kids, but he could have told his son not to mention it in front of other kids, instead of ruining if for loads of them.
He may well of told him not to say anything, but he is 4. Not like he is really going to listen and not say anything is it.
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Greg_M
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but oh know the dad that laughs about the whole issue shoots his sons dreams down in a ball of flames saying theres no such thing as father christmas its all fake, and im the one who buys the presents
yes because lieing to your kids for years is fantastic parenting
i agree in part. Just dont see why the school has an issue with it.
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i told him to explain that other people believe different things and he shouldnt say it infront of other children as they believe in him. I didnt once say that i wanted him to tell him that he's real. Just dont want it ruined for all the others
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RS6
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maybe he will think twice about runing it for all the others when he has to stay at home that day while all the other kids get presents from father christmas
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Steve
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but you tried to force the fact that santa does exist by getting all the grown ups to say he does.
so basically your forcing your view on him, which is going to totally confuse the kid at such a young age.
you should had a word them both, not questioned the father perogitive and just asked him to make sure the child shuts up in future
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