Steve
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your car mustve been shafted then, a 106 will easily beat a 130bhp, that is a fact, not a made up one either
get all the facts then steven its 138 bhp not 130
sorry
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Whittie
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Originally posted by Edd
and yes the weight difference is quite a bit but the 206 is 4 star n-cap and the 106 is your dead in a crash cap
Yeah, the 206 was in a really bad state last night apparently, but both drivers got out ok. Every panel was bent.
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Ian
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Hardly the most scientific comparison.
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Rob B
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its wierd with 106gti's and vts's, they should lose to alot more car's than they do  , i struggle in my rallye to pass one. and i have more torque and about 12 more bhp per ton
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Edd
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Hardly the most scientific comparison.
exactly
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Steve
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its all about the gearing and power delivery aswell they are good sprint cars for the power they produce
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Edd
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Originally posted by Rob B
its wierd with 106gti's and vts's, they should lose to alot more car's than they do , i struggle in my rallye to pass one. and i have more torque and about 12 more bhp per ton
its power to weight ratio
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taylorboosh
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I WANT A VTS 
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Edd
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i own a 138 bhp and there is no doubting it feels as if it needs just that wee bit more they addressed that with the 180 though
but i love my car it has everything i want and need with decent performance
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Ash_EP3
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180 bhp seems dissapointing also, 40+ more BHP and is not even a second quicker 0-60?
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Summary.aspx?model=1262
[Edited on 05-12-2007 by S214_UPP]
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Edd
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yep its actually higher up where the big difference is all to do with the new cams and such they put in
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Edd
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also the parkers figures arent the most accurate with the 0-60
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Ash_EP3
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also the parkers figures arent the most accurate with the 0-60
it would seem that way, it says that the 106 gti is a second slower than the vts... I was under the impression they were the same engine!
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Edd
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also the parkers figures arent the most accurate with the 0-60
it would seem that way, it says that the 106 gti is a second slower than the vts... I was under the impression they were the same engine!
they are peugeot lied basically with the figures for a lower insurance group just like the 138 bhp
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by Edd
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Originally posted by Rob B
its wierd with 106gti's and vts's, they should lose to alot more car's than they do , i struggle in my rallye to pass one. and i have more torque and about 12 more bhp per ton
its power to weight ratio
and most vts' / gti's make more than 120 bhp standard 
For example with just a exhuast + filter my car was running 141 bhp @ fly.
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Steve
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peugeot didnt lie with the figures, thats actually what the 106gti got, but they tested it with a passenger and a payload to make it appear slower than the vts = 1 IG lower
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corsa_rob
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i think that story is class..lol pegeot getting it insurance group lower...will have one come next october/november... 
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Paul_J
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peugeot didnt lie with the figures, thats actually what the 106gti got, but they tested it with a passenger and a payload to make it appear slower than the vts = 1 IG lower
I think they did lie all round... claiming 8.4 0-60 but also 120 bhp standard... I don't think I've ever seen a 106 gti make 120 bhp standard.
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Butler
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Well ive driven both, and the 106 is quicker in a straight line but as standard only marginally, the 206 feels sluggish. The 106 would also out handle the 206.
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Steve
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mine made 127bhp as standard on not very forigivng rollers
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Edd
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Originally posted by Steve
peugeot didnt lie with the figures, thats actually what the 106gti got, but they tested it with a passenger and a payload to make it appear slower than the vts = 1 IG lower
I think they did lie all round... claiming 8.4 0-60 but also 120 bhp standard... I don't think I've ever seen a 106 gti make 120 bhp standard.
exactly
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strick206
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Originally posted by Paul_J
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Originally posted by Steve
peugeot didnt lie with the figures, thats actually what the 106gti got, but they tested it with a passenger and a payload to make it appear slower than the vts = 1 IG lower
I think they did lie all round... claiming 8.4 0-60 but also 120 bhp standard... I don't think I've ever seen a 106 gti make 120 bhp standard.
i aso have never seen a 106 gti make 120 standard, always above
i have also seen a standard gti 180 do a 6.9 0-60 last year
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Edd
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Well ive driven both, and the 106 is quicker in a straight line but as standard only marginally, the 206 feels sluggish. The 106 would also out handle the 206.
but the quality of the 206 is far superior plus better looking imo
so i know what i'd have
plus the handling part wouldnt be that different
i had vtr and i would say the peugeot actually handles better with more power
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Whittie
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The 106's are quick in all fairness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nPnPXa99p4
Not the best video, but it killed the corsa after 3rd gear on another occasion.
3rd & 4th gears in the 106 are the key imo, they just pull and pull, which is where corsa's lose out on imo.
From experience the 106 isn't great at getting traction in the wet, but may be due to having toyo proxies on, not sure.
If I had the 206gti i'd only get the 180. They're well built, good looking and have safety which the 106 doesnt.
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Edd
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thats the thing though whittie i was faced with this dilemma
the 138 i got was pristine and a absolute bargain
seen other 180's not so good and a lot dearer i decided the small difference in power wasnt worth the extra bucks
[Edited on 05-12-2007 by Edd]
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