Lawrah
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18 to purchase them...yet 16 to acutually smoke them..thats stupid.
hereeee mate gona geee us a 10 pack a Bensons mateee
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Nic Barnes
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Registered: 5th Apr 04
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country is fucked
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Ben G
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Registered: 12th Jan 07
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guess i'll just have to buy them for my cousin now instead of her getting them 
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LeeM
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Registered: 26th Sep 05
Location: Liverpool
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gf's 17, this means im gonna spend most of my time going to the shop for her and her mates!
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Nic Barnes
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cant buy cigs until 18
cant smoke while driving
cant eat chips and burgers in school
cant get a job becuase of the polish
cant get into most clubs until 21
basically, until you turn 21, you are not in control of your own life. its a dictatorship. be queing for bread like russia in the 60's and 70's soon.
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LeeM
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Registered: 26th Sep 05
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never come across a club in blackpool where u have to be 21, they have the think21 scheme but i sont mind having my driving licence in my wallet
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andy1868
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Registered: 22nd Jun 06
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theres afew places in southport where you have to be 21. one of them used to be the old public toilets that are underground and used to badly smell of piss
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Nic Barnes
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Registered: 5th Apr 04
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i need to save up and go live in australia with the rest of my family.
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Kathryn W
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
cant buy cigs until 18
cant smoke while driving
cant eat chips and burgers in school
cant get a job becuase of the polish
cant get into most clubs until 21
basically, until you turn 21, you are not in control of your own life.
I feel this is so true.
I'm 18 and still feel I get treated like a kid.
The rules and laws theyre bringing in is pathetic
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
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quote:
"I'll just get my mum to go out and get them for me," she says.
And while the parents continue to undermine law and justice in this country, the problem will remain.
Shops will be fined for selling to under 18s, I see no reason to not fine parents or anyone else who facilitate the purchase.
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LeeM
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Registered: 26th Sep 05
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because u need to be 16 to smoke but 18 to buy ian, so its legal for someone over 18 to buy them for someone over 16... from what i can gather
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Nic Barnes
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Registered: 5th Apr 04
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
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"I'll just get my mum to go out and get them for me," she says.
And while the parents continue to undermine law and justice in this country, the problem will remain.
Shops will be fined for selling to under 18s, I see no reason to not fine parents or anyone else who facilitate the purchase.
how do you prove they are buying them for children?
did your mummy never rent you an 18 certificate video when you were 13 or so? fail to see the difference really
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by lee_wee
because u need to be 16 to smoke but 18 to buy ian, so its legal for someone over 18 to buy them for someone over 16... from what i can gather
indeed
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Ben G
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Registered: 12th Jan 07
Location: Essex
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
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"I'll just get my mum to go out and get them for me," she says.
And while the parents continue to undermine law and justice in this country, the problem will remain.
Shops will be fined for selling to under 18s, I see no reason to not fine parents or anyone else who facilitate the purchase.
when i worked in a supermarket, we used to operate a scheme where if a mum and son/daughter came in with them and the mother attempted to purchase fags/booze and their son/daughter was not of the legal age also, they would be refused it.
they can also be fined 5k iirc if anyone catches them purchasing it for kids and giving it to them outside the shop.
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Nic Barnes
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Registered: 5th Apr 04
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
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Originally posted by Ian
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"I'll just get my mum to go out and get them for me," she says.
And while the parents continue to undermine law and justice in this country, the problem will remain.
Shops will be fined for selling to under 18s, I see no reason to not fine parents or anyone else who facilitate the purchase.
when i worked in a supermarket, we used to operate a scheme where if a mum and son/daughter came in with them and the mother attempted to purchase fags/booze and their son/daughter was not of the legal age also, they would be refused it.
they can also be fined 5k iirc if anyone catches them purchasing it for kids and giving it to them outside the shop.
how the fuck can you prove during a weekly shop that the bottles or beer or whatever are for the youth who is with the parent?
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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Becauase the culture should be that if in doubt, the purchase is not made. This not about fighting the system, this is about children seeing what is available to them or not.
If you want cigarettes and alcohol, buy and consume them in private away from your children.
And no, my parents would not have dreamed of hiring me an 18 video. They also didn't permit underage drinking or smoke or take drugs.
Quite by accident, I'm not a drug-taking smoker drunkard.
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Tommy L
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Registered: 21st Aug 06
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excellent. Always thought it should be the same legal age like alcohol
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Robin
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Registered: 7th Jan 04
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So just because you've gone to Tesco after you've picked your kids up from school, you must be buying a bottle of wine for them to drink, and you should go back another day, after finding someone to look after your kids?
The kids will just get random people on the street to buy stuff for them, the same as they do with bottles of cheap wine when they're 14.
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LeeM
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Registered: 26th Sep 05
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if they banned it outright there would be public outcry, human rights or whatever. but because it only affects a small part of the population who find it hard enough to voice opinions as it is, they are ignored
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nova_gteuk
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Registered: 15th May 02
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at the end off the day kids will still smoke whether you have to be 18 or 16 to smoke.this ban will make no diffrence imo.
Making the age limit 18 isnt going to make a 16 year old think hmmm i better give up because its illegal to buy them for a few years lol
This goverment is so backwards no wonder this country is in such a state.
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strick206
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Registered: 12th Apr 07
Location: Wigan Drives:Integra DC5
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
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Originally posted by Ian
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"I'll just get my mum to go out and get them for me," she says.
And while the parents continue to undermine law and justice in this country, the problem will remain.
Shops will be fined for selling to under 18s, I see no reason to not fine parents or anyone else who facilitate the purchase.
when i worked in a supermarket, we used to operate a scheme where if a mum and son/daughter came in with them and the mother attempted to purchase fags/booze and their son/daughter was not of the legal age also, they would be refused it.
they can also be fined 5k iirc if anyone catches them purchasing it for kids and giving it to them outside the shop.
That is a fucking stupid rule, tesco pissed me right off with that, it was my mums birthday, went buying her a card, chocolates, and a bottle of wine, asked for my ID, yet wouldnt serve me because i could of been getting it for my girlfriend who was 17 at the time.
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SetH
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Registered: 15th Jul 01
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quote:
Originally posted by Kathryn W
quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
cant buy cigs until 18
cant smoke while driving
cant eat chips and burgers in school
cant get a job becuase of the polish
cant get into most clubs until 21
basically, until you turn 21, you are not in control of your own life.
I feel this is so true.
I'm 18 and still feel I get treated like a kid.
The rules and laws theyre bringing in is pathetic
The rules arent 'pathetic' they just dont suit 'you'.
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SetH
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Registered: 15th Jul 01
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Becauase the culture should be that if in doubt, the purchase is not made. This not about fighting the system, this is about children seeing what is available to them or not.
If you want cigarettes and alcohol, buy and consume them in private away from your children.
And no, my parents would not have dreamed of hiring me an 18 video. They also didn't permit underage drinking or smoke or take drugs.
Quite by accident, I'm not a drug-taking smoker drunkard.
Outstanding, /me applauds 
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deano87
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Registered: 21st Oct 06
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Originally posted by SetH
Outstanding, /me applauds
Aye. Ian speaks the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
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Nic Barnes
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Registered: 5th Apr 04
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Quite by accident, I'm not a drug-taking smoker drunkard.
i was always allowed to drink the odd beer from when i was about 13-14. oddly, i dont drink any alcohol and havent done since i was about 22-23.
stop kids doing things and they do it. allow them, the thrill goes and they have no interest
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