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Nick-S
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13th Sep 07 at 16:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
no its quite definitely
Novaneil
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What you need is a nice 1.4 TDi Audi A2.... £35 a year to Tax, 60+ MPG and can be chipped easily That is if you do a lot of motorway miles like me.

I hate diesels!!! I drive a Fabia VRS everyday to work... yes its quick and yes I average 50+mpg everyday but its sooo annoying not having Revs on my favourite roads! Im always changing gear (I find 3500rpm is the best time to change). Grrrrr.... Can't wait to get the Corsa on the road.
Nick-S
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13th Sep 07 at 16:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i dont mind not haveing to rev it, but ive always had dervs.
i find the torque more fun any way
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quote:
Originally posted by Novaneil
I hate diesels!!! I drive a Fabia VRS everyday to work... yes its quick and yes I average 50+mpg everyday but its sooo annoying not having Revs on my favourite roads! Im always changing gear (I find 3500rpm is the best time to change). Grrrrr.... Can't wait to get the Corsa on the road.


please don't let steve see this
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13th Sep 07 at 16:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Its never bothered me that diesels dont rev as high as petrols. Always found them as much fun to drive. Torque is ace
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13th Sep 07 at 16:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i would say my diesel fabia easily costs 1/4 of what my leon cupra was.

i average 50mpg thats mixed with spirited driving, also the argument about diesels costing more in the first place doesnt really apply to the second hand market, new yes, second hand no

[Edited on 13-09-2007 by Steve]
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Originally posted by Matty G
Its never bothered me that diesels dont rev as high as petrols. Always found them as much fun to drive. Torque is ace


Agree with the fact Torque can be fun in a straight line but having 240lb'ft doloped on you at 2000rpm when your trying to smoothly exit a tight corner whilst balancing with the level of grip is by no means the fastest or nicest way of getting round it. I also find the extra weight over the front end really upsets the balance.

There's just no feathering of the throttle with a very torquey weisel engine, the power/torque band is just far too narrow.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
quote:
Originally posted by Novaneil
I hate diesels!!! I drive a Fabia VRS everyday to work... yes its quick and yes I average 50+mpg everyday but its sooo annoying not having Revs on my favourite roads! Im always changing gear (I find 3500rpm is the best time to change). Grrrrr.... Can't wait to get the Corsa on the road.


please don't let steve see this


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Originally posted by Novaneil
quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
Its never bothered me that diesels dont rev as high as petrols. Always found them as much fun to drive. Torque is ace


Agree with the fact Torque can be fun in a straight line but having 240lb'ft doloped on you at 2000rpm when your trying to smoothly exit a tight corner whilst balancing with the level of grip is by no means the fastest or nicest way of getting round it. I also find the extra weight over the front end upsets the balance and promotes more understeer compared to other petrol cars of a similar size.

There's just no feathering of the throttle with a very torquey weisel engine, the power/torque band is just far too narrow.
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why dont let me see it?
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I hardly ever drive cars on the limit, screaming around corners anymore as too much risk on the roads with other people about. And care about my car too much to risk crashing it now

If I was having a track car I'd have a petrol but for the road it doesn't make sense to me.
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13th Sep 07 at 17:01   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yeah it made a refreshing change to me not to have to rag the car to get in its power band
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I do 500 miles a week, Diesels the safe option for me. Only trouble is you dont get much car for your money compaired to petrol motors.
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13th Sep 07 at 17:22   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
no thats very true
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13th Sep 07 at 17:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Agreed also.

I to do 500miles+ a week. but having owned both an LPG and Diesel car I think i'll be going back to LPG next time... for me it works out cheaper, you don't get that aweful diesel sound, there's more revs and it doesn't stink oh and less weight over the front.

Dugga Dugga Dugga
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I only need a diesel stinker for 18 months, maybe a bit less (for work). Then i'll be looking at a petrol motor again - something fun!!
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
I only need a diesel stinker for 18 months, maybe a bit less (for work). Then i'll be looking at a petrol motor again - something fun!!


wrong again, as usual.
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport

wrong again, as usual.


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Nic Barnes
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i am, because i dont disslike certain cars or critisize things i dont understand.
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Originally posted by muppetsport
i am, because i dont disslike certain cars or critisize things i dont understand.


CTR
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the owners i dont like, the cars themselves are decent
Nick-S
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quote:
Originally posted by Novaneil
Agreed also.

I to do 500miles+ a week. but having owned both an LPG and Diesel car I think i'll be going back to LPG next time... for me it works out cheaper, you don't get that aweful diesel sound, there's more revs and it doesn't stink oh and less weight over the front.

Dugga Dugga Dugga
my derv dont sound half bad tbh

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