Daimo B
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Yes, its probably the karate, twaekwondo or anything else with fancy ass jackie chan bollocks that will get you sparked the fuck out in a pub by a grant mitchell beer monster if you try to implement it.
2 things annoy me about kickboxing* though :
1) If somebody goes to kickboxing they are suddenly "hard" and can do everyone in the pub
2) everyone knows a mate, who knows a mates brothers mate who was european champion or some shit. seriously we must have had 25,000 euro champioins in the last few years.
Agreed with that. When it comes to a "street brawl" ANY martial art is only so effective. Bar brawl fighting is completly different, most of it will end up on the floor wrestling around.
I've done a few other martial arts, and i'd say KB is the best one as a closer to "real world" fighting.
I never considered myself "ard" and didn't go looking for fights, but if they came, i'd feel a lot more confident about throwing a few combination punches in and moving back before getting belted myself. Before that, i'd get jelly legs  (were talking some years back here).
Personnally, i've never met a KB who's got through to represent our country or anything. My instructor was a real hard bastard londoner though I was doing a demo and accidently belted him one on the face, he smiled and put me on the floor via a very quick leg swipe. I wouldn't have messed with him. I think he went IN for the British trials, but didn't really get anywhere.
But tbh, I think he was the kind bloke who knew how to street fight, but also knew KB very well, so he's quids in
Ugly scarred up mofo though. ha ha
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SetH
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watch it and learn.
cue ball in a cloth girl
and the gook with the sticks
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foxyk8t
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I never considered myself "ard" and didn't go looking for fights, but if they came, i'd feel a lot more confident about throwing a few combination punches in and moving back before getting belted myself. Before that, i'd get jelly legs (were talking some years back here).
Like the quote above i do think it does give you a bit more confidence you can learn to block a throw move out of the way and protect yourself, ive been boxing the last couple of months with one of the doorman i work with he's very good at what he was teaching but it wasnt all about fighting it was also if someone comes at you from behind or any other angle for that matter how you could deal with it by transfering weigh etc. must abmit i did enjoy the grappling lol
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foxyk8t
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sorry about my spelling mistakes im trying to type quick to avoid getting caught on here in work time
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SetH
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lol enjoyed by grappled by your doormen, woudl help segal to get in shape again.
you minxtress you
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foxyk8t
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Horse rider, strong thighs lol
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SetH
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horse riders are usually quite tight as well for some reason.
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foxyk8t
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It's all in the squeezing ha ha
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SetH
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my god, FILTH!
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normal boxing helped me loads with defence and incorporated restraint techniques for bouncing
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foxyk8t
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This is getting rude now! This is a serious thread lol 
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Thats kinda what i've been taught so far working with one of the guys, in that environmant it's not about beating the crap out of them but blocking a punch etc protecting yourself and restraining ive learnt some good stuff thats why id like to carry on!
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SetH
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I did doors for 4 years, and neither myself or anyone else had to go toe to toe with somebody, it doesnt really happen like that.
Now getting someone out that doesnt want to be moved is another thing, youll be suprised at how heavy someone can make themselves when they dig their heels in.
This is why big ol fat barstad doormen are useful, having the weight to literally juggernaut someone out the door is of upmost importance.
the new generation of skinny "i was bullied at school and i want payback" door supervisors make me PMFSL. But that seems to be how the authorities want it, the SIA licence has forced a lot of the old school hard barstads out of the industry.
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We have a very good door team where i am alot of the guys have been doing that job for years, i know where your coming from when your talking about having trouble getting them out its being able to deal with it in a proffessional manner.
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SetH
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craigw on here does doors in luton lol, i know they regualry have big kick offs down there and hes had a few brawls, but he loves it realy.
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bigdan
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i did kickboxing when i was 11 -14 no 1 would start with me at school i was a right hard nut 
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A1EX
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i regularly do muay thai here and for skinny bastards some of these thai fellas are " ard " mother fuckers
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by SetH
craigw on here does doors in luton lol, i know they regualry have big kick offs down there and hes had a few brawls, but he loves it realy.
Knew Craig when he was about 4ft wider than me, and i was about 19/20
He's a sound lad, would run for my life if i ever got on the wrong side of him.
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i regularly do muay thai here and for skinny bastards some of these thai fellas are " ard " mother fuckers
I also do Muay Thai, along with western kickboxing, Tae Kwon Do and bits of other styles. The skinny Muay Thai guys are awesome, my instructor is probably under 10 stone but his power is awesome and he'd knock the majority of people out in a few seconds.
From the comments saying Aikido is effective in a fight - I'd disagree, pulling off locks and throws in a pressure situation is much more difficult then executing a PROPER punch or elbow, knee, palm strike etc that you learn from kickboxing training and drill regularly.
However every Martial Art has application, even such "flashy ones" as Karate or TKD, its how they are taught and the techniques utilised that makes a difference, of course your not going to user a 360 spinnning kick in a bar, but people that comment along these lines have obviously not trained in such styles as they are far more in depth - e.g I learnt Palm Strikes from TKD - head over to the self protection forums (do a search) and try telling the experts on there that open hand strikes are ineffective...
To the original poster - if your looking for self defence KB is a good art to study- you will develop power, proper punching technique, a proper guard, and you will get used to getting hit if you spar. Depending on your instructor you may learn additional techniques such as elbow and knees.
and to the kicking bashers - you;ve obviously never been kicked in the leg by a well delivered Muay Thai roundhouse...
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foxyk8t
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Originally posted by A1EX
To the original poster - if your looking for self defence KB is a good art to study- you will develop power, proper punching technique, a proper guard, and you will get used to getting hit if you spar. Depending on your instructor you may learn additional techniques such as elbow and knees.
and to the kicking bashers - you;ve obviously never been kicked in the leg by a well delivered Muay Thai roundhouse...
Thanks for the input im really looking forward to tonite
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ive trained muay thai for about 2 and a half years also a bit of bjj and wrestling (train at an mma areana).
its really not about flashy moves, and is very effective in the real world.
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A1EX
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ive also trained in karate aswell as muay thai and tbh both are as useful in the right areas, karate is not all about flashy moves far from it. It teaches you good awareness especially if there is more than one person very useful in real world situations, also control which is by far the best thing to have at your side imo.
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SetH
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windmilling in is the most effective method imho tbh tbf the end...
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foxyk8t
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Just to let you all know i loved it and will be going again next week - aching tho but good ache
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A1EX
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
windmilling in is the most effective method imho tbh tbf the end...
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