Hammer
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It affects everyone's mental health as well, proven fact you lose short term memory whilst smoking it.
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Dr Pepper
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have no doubt at all that cannabis is damaging to the individual, especially if you take it regularly from a young age, but I am certain that its effects to society is not as damaging as alcohol.
If they are worried about new types of skunk being damaging then how about doing what nearly every public health survey says they should do--- legalise it, coontrol the supply and the strength of the drug and tax it to pay for any nhs work that this would lead to-- any thing else is just sticking your head in the sand
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If they are worried about skunk being too powerful these days then legalise a form of mild skunk or resin - take the demand away form the dealers and give people the option of taking a drug safely
Cannabis being illegal does not stop people taking it-- I would like to have the option of going to shop and buying weed that I know is a certain strenght- and more importantly hasnt been cut with anything harmful. I dont see why I should have to go to a dealer and take my chances whenb there is a much better solution
[Edited on 27-07-2007 by Dr Pepper]
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Dr Pepper speaks sense
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Hammer
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Cannabis being illegal does not stop people taking it but i guarantee it reduces the numbers significantly. If it were legalised we run the risk of a generation of braindead stoners running the country. There's 2 sides to the argument.
Also a point to note the people pushing for its legalisation, for the most part, are cannabis users.
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i think weed is the only drug that can possibly be legalised, all this talk of E's, speed etc being legalised is nonsense
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Dr Pepper speaks sense
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Ricky352
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i think weed is the only drug that can possibly be legalised, all this talk of E's, speed etc being legalised is nonsense
True cannabis is a completly different thing. Other drugs are much worse and i disagree with them all.
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Dr Pepper
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Originally posted by Hammer
Cannabis being illegal does not stop people taking it but i guarantee it reduces the numbers significantly. If it were legalised we run the risk of a generation of braindead stoners running the country. There's 2 sides to the argument.
Also a point to note the people pushing for its legalisation, for the most part, are cannabis users.
I dont agree with you mate- anyone who wants to get cannabis can get it now- they just cant guarantee its safety... I dont believe cannabis being illegal stops the demand for it-- it certainly hasnt doen in the hundred years it has been illegal-- demand has gone up.
You are also wrong in saying the only people who want iot legalised are users. Most of the police force would rather it was legalised, as would most doctors.
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If they are worried about skunk being too powerful these days then legalise a form of mild skunk or resin - take the demand away form the dealers and give people the option of taking a drug safely
Cannabis being illegal does not stop people taking it-- I would like to have the option of going to shop and buying weed that I know is a certain strenght- and more importantly hasnt been cut with anything harmful. I dont see why I should have to go to a dealer and take my chances whenb there is a much better solution
[Edited on 27-07-2007 by Dr Pepper]
 That's exactly what I think (even though I dont ever want to do it again  )
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I have LOTS of ambition still. Too much in fact. I want to be at the top of whatever field I choose. Not a trait identified as a weed smoker.
Paranoia, I only get paranoid when im actually smoking it. But not serious paranoia. Silly things like is that moquito that just bit me gonna come back for more etc... Nothing serious.
AS said, funny how this has all come about now Gorden Brown is in power.....
Im still mentally very strong, very focused, im not paranoid,
Bar a few breaks, i've smoked since i was 19, im now 26.
I said everything else I had to say in the other post.
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i think weed is the only drug that can possibly be legalised, all this talk of E's, speed etc being legalised is nonsense
True cannabis is a completly different thing. Other drugs are much worse and i disagree with them all.
Ecstacy is very misunderstood, and I dont feel should be included under the blanket of the rest of the "hard drugs". I bet not one person watched that documentary that I posted the link to cos they were scared of having an open mind 
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the trouble is its effects, it may not be as harmful, but cannabis makes you go sleepy and chilled, ecstacy makes you go hyper and monged, if i was to release one of those drugs legally i know which id rather people going
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Dr Pepper
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By making more drugs busts all you do is increase the price of drugs on the street-- therefore crime rates go up as drug supplies go down. Also the main reason cannabis is a gateway drug is because you have to buy it from a dealer who will more than likely offer you opther drugs ---Black markets are not a good thing when it comes to drugs - it doesnt solve the problem - iyt just puts users at more risk and increases the crime rates
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Steve
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do you smoke cannabis DP?
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If they are worried about skunk being too powerful these days then legalise a form of mild skunk or resin - take the demand away form the dealers and give people the option of taking a drug safely
Cannabis being illegal does not stop people taking it-- I would like to have the option of going to shop and buying weed that I know is a certain strenght- and more importantly hasnt been cut with anything harmful. I dont see why I should have to go to a dealer and take my chances whenb there is a much better solution
Aye, that "White Widow" i just bought, wasn't white widow. I know this becuase I was smoking it in amsterdam the day before, and it looked, smelt, and tasted totally different.
Yet in amsterdam, not matter what coffee shop you go in, it all tasted/looked the same......
Like i said in the other post. I'd be much happier to pay a little more if I knew the stuff i was getting was a better quality.
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Originally posted by Dr Pepper
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Originally posted by Hammer
Cannabis being illegal does not stop people taking it but i guarantee it reduces the numbers significantly. If it were legalised we run the risk of a generation of braindead stoners running the country. There's 2 sides to the argument.
Also a point to note the people pushing for its legalisation, for the most part, are cannabis users.
I dont agree with you mate- anyone who wants to get cannabis can get it now- they just cant guarantee its safety... I dont believe cannabis being illegal stops the demand for it-- it certainly hasnt doen in the hundred years it has been illegal-- demand has gone up.
You are also wrong in saying the only people who want iot legalised are users. Most of the police force would rather it was legalised, as would most doctors.
You don't agree that if it were to be legalised a lot more people would do it? I'm sorry but i can't see that tbh, there would most certainly be an upturn in it's usage.
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I had white widdow in Amsterdam when I went last year. Fuck me it was strong, I felt like I was sitting on a boat and I could feel the boat rocking over the waves, I didn't like it much. But I had some weak pish the other day off of a mate which was all over after about 10 mins 
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Yup, the gateway theory only makes sense due to the user being on contact with dealers selling more than one drug, and being offered them. Smoking cannabis does not automatically make you want to go and inject yourself with heroin, despite what people may think Anyway I think Ive said enough now in this thread and the last 26 page one so Im gonna leave my final thought - if you do have to experiment then play safe, never overdo it, realise theres more to life than taking drugs all the time even if it is fun every once in a while, and look out for your mates aswell before they make any mistakes they may well regret
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the trouble is its effects, it may not be as harmful, but cannabis makes you go sleepy and chilled
No, only certain types does.
Other varients of weed give you milder more excitable highs. Having a joint doesn't mean your going to fall asleep in the corner. You can get different types, different tastes, different strength, different highs.
Just the same way you can buy different types of anything.
I've smoked green thats made me all awake, giggly, wanting to do stuff, and other green thats put me in the chair not wanting to move...
Depends what you get, and as said, if you could choose the different types.
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i find it amusing how all the people who smoke cannabis* are blatantley using the excuses outlined so they can get the drugs easier lets face it, thats all its about
*apart from drunkenfool
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Any drug would benefit from being legalised.
The main problem with heroin is not the drug itself, but what it is cut with, and the criminality associated with it.
I would like to see heroin given free of charge to users, as part of a controlled programme- noone would be dying, no one would be stealing to get it - the money saved on police force and nhs would more than cover the supply of the drug.
Heroin is not actually a very damaging drug if you take it pure, and you take a controlled dose..... the problem is that street heroin is deadly because you are never sure how pure the dose you are taking is. I would rather see heroin, crack, speed, acid, k users treated professionally- than see them left to steal for h and then everntually die from it
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You don't agree that if it were to be legalised a lot more people would do it? I'm sorry but i can't see that tbh, there would most certainly be an upturn in it's usage.
Intitially, people would get all excited, loads would use it.
But after a few years, it would calm down as theres no excitement around it, no more hype, no more media BS, no more political BS.
Funny how most of the peopel smoking it before it was class C were fine, now Gorden Browns in power (known to dislike cannabis), all of a sudden, theres loads of cases of mental patients.....
Funny that.....
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i would rather see them not take it at all
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Hammer
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Heroin is not actually a very damaging drug if you take it pure,
Lets start dishing out Heroin at school lunchtimes then eh, honest to god 
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