JadeM
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12 months lessons  
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Colin
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Originally posted by JM_16v
Have to be 18 to pass,
at least 12 months lessons so you wont be drivign till your 19!
Once you driving No Alchol allowed in your system at all till a certain age,
no passengers between 10-20 betwen the hours of 11pm and 5am
what are peoples views?
Dont see what difference 18 if going to make really, peoples attitudes dont change over 12 months.
12 months lessons - bit unfair, some folk can grasp driving very quickly & be very good at it, others on the other hand might genuinly take longer than 12 months.
No Drink ban - well who hasnt had a drink at that age - with mates having parties, then you driving the next day does that mean with a slight tiny amount you'll get banned???
No passengers - Again I dont see what thats going to achieve!!
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Colin
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Why not just have a 'Fuckwitt law' - if your caught red handed being a fuckwitt & you cant reasonably explain your actions, you go straight to jail - no trial just jail!!
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mwg
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Unlucky for the people that will get faced with this crap when they come to learn to drive.
Think of the parents though, 12 months of having to sit in with your son/daughter. That would do my tits in!
I reckon its got to be partly to do with if they make it harder for people to get a car licence they'll get more people off the road and onto public transport...
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Rob126
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quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
Have to be 18 to pass,
at least 12 months lessons so you wont be drivign till your 19!
Once you driving No Alchol allowed in your system at all till a certain age,
no passengers between 10-20 betwen the hours of 11pm and 5am
what are peoples views?
[Edited on 19-07-2007 by JM_16v]
what would happen if my younger brother (15year old) gets an asthma attack during the night and i'm the only one at home? (thats just an example as i'm not even in the UK  )
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Doug
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Time for a mini essay
I think that the new restrictions wont ever happen! Belive it or not the USA has the right idea when it comes to driving!!
You have to take 'drivers ed' at school which teachs you how to drive, but heres the kicker.... If you fail school your not allowed to learn to drive! Such a simple idea but so perfect. Keeps the idiots off the roads!
Another idea is that you study to get your theory test at any time over here.... Well why dont you apply for a lerners permit when you turn 17, this would enable you to drive with an instructer just like a normal lesson. Then once you ave passed your thoery test and are assesed on basic driving skills like being able to drive and steer etc not parking or anything you should be given a Provisional License. This provisional license should then enable you to continue to have lessons but not be allowed to learn on the motor way etc. These provisional license lessons should cover everything that is currently in the pass plus scheme.
I hope that makes sense?
And I think there should be mandatroy re-sits every 5 years when people get to 60. They are scary on the roads!!
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Colin
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USA has the right idea yet they have serious problems with street racers in some parts!?!?!?!? Proof that whatever restrictions are put in place folk will still cunt around in cars no matter what!!
Bring in fuckwitt law!!!!!!
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Colin
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I dont think theres any problem with the current system its fair - once you can drive you sit the test, if your good enough you pass whether that takes you 2 months or 2 years to get to the acceptable level - all people learn at different levels!! Now what they maybe should introduce is some adverse condition driving as part of a longer test, maybe have 4-5 parts, written (as current), normal driving with manuvuers (as current), Motorway driving (Never quite got it how you cant go on the Mway as a learner then once pass you can go straight on without any experience!) Night time driving (again new drivers have very little experience of this), Rain/ice/snow (as before, new drivers generally think they dont need to alter their driving for these conditions - WRONG!! But only because they've never been taught!!) imo that would make new drivers safer not imposing silly restrictions upon them!! Further to a more complex series of tests to pass any foul action within the 1st 2yrs would lead to a heafty driving penalty incoporating a ban, fine & complete retest.
Honestly that took me 20 seconds to think up - & im your general working class monkey...................what the fuck are these politicians getting paid silly money for. 
[Edited on 19-07-2007 by Colin]
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Gti180dom
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I dont see those changes happening imo. You cant really make a comparison to the USA cos they all drive pissin automatics. But the good thing is they can drive when theyre 16 n cant drink till theyre 21 so theres 5 years between to grow up before they can drink. The majority of drink drivers in the UK are aged 18-25
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Gti180dom
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What i would suggest for young drivers under say 21 is that for the first year you cant have a car over a certain bhp as anyone can pass their test at 17 and jump into an evo (if they can afford it)! Also the no passenger idea is a good one, i cant remember how many near misses i had picking up pissed mates just after id passed
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Colin
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Originally posted by Gti180dom
What i would suggest for young drivers under say 21 is that for the first year you cant have a car over a certain bhp as anyone can pass their test at 17 and jump into an evo (if they can afford it)! Also the no passenger idea is a good one, i cant remember how many near misses i had picking up pissed mates just after id passed
Nah that wont achieve much, I personally dont know anyone that had an evo (or equivalent) at 17 or just passed their test. Everyone had 1L-1.2L bangers, & its just as easy to go too fast in one of them.
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Kathryn W
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TBH I dont think it would make much difference, you'd still get the scrote's robbing cars and causing accidents.
12 months of lessons is a bit harsh though! Especially at the prices they are at currently.
There was a lad that was out with me the other night, had passed his test a week earlier and went and spun out his mark one polo trying to "Drift" around an island... 
So in that sense where new drivers as soon as they pass go and fuck themselves and others up its a good thing, but i still dont understand why it would change the standard of driving..
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Damian_666
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Originally posted by Edd
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Originally posted by Boosha
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Originally posted by Edd
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Originally posted by JM_16v
Have to be 18 to pass,
at least 12 months lessons so you wont be drivign till your 19!
Once you driving No Alchol allowed in your system at all till a certain age,
no passengers between the age of 10-20 between the hours of 11pm and 5am
what are peoples views?
as long as a cut in insurance for young drivers follows then, also people over 60 should have restrictions put on them aswell as should disabled drivers
[Edited on 19-07-2007 by Edd]
And what restrictions do you have in mind for disabled drivers ?
Do you not think its hard enough for them to get round without folk like you slapping do's and don'ts onto them eh ?
folk like me?
i know 1st hand through family members how important it is to get about but then i also see the flip side of how dangerous they can be..... going round a roundabout the wrong way springs to mind
a lot of young drivers are dangerous but so are plenty of other groups on the road where are all the resrictions on them?
people nowadays have to pass the most stringent test's there have ever been 60 year old disabled folk didnt
well going round, round about the wrong way it more retardness than disabled im only comenting as my dad has MS, he got around fine in his car. also there are already restrictions on disabled people, as there are seprate driving tests to make sure they are fully able to have control of the car etc. so i think they are restricted enough. also every 60 year old are not disabled.
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corsa - gus
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Originally posted by Demo
"no passengers between 10-20 betwen the hours of 11pm and 5am"
stupid imo. what happens in the event of an emergency
its just as shite as the cheaper insurance you get if you promise to stay off the road between 11pm and 6am
of course this is stupid, what if you've gone for a few drinks and the designated driver can only take themselves home!
Or if you have been on holiday and your flights delayed so you end up breaking your curfew! it makes no sense imo.
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Joe
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A couple seem ok ideas.
One i'd definatly consider putting in is if you fail your test 3 times you can't retake for a certain period.
If people can't manage that then they are simply a danger on the roads.
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chris-sri
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This would be very difficult and resource draining to Police. Limiting engine power is an idea however you can kill a carful of passeners just as easily in a 1.1 Saxo as you can in a higher powered vehicle. It's not normally the raw power that is the problem it is power being used in the wrong places. A better idea would be to make a harrowing video using young drivers who have killed or seriously injured their friends whilst driving recklessly and make it compulsory that all new drivers watch it.
[Edited on 19-07-2007 by chris-sri]
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Butler
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PMSL 12 months lessons, you would lose the will. I passed in 2 exactly.
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Kurt
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not really read alot of this thread but i agree with it slightly, i dont agree with everyone labelling young uns as boy racers and the cause of all accidents but knowing how i drove at 17-18 i think its a good idea, passenger limiting though is stupid, whats that going to achieve?
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Planty02
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quote:
Originally posted by Kurt
not really read alot of this thread but i agree with it slightly, i dont agree with everyone labelling young uns as boy racers and the cause of all accidents but knowing how i drove at 17-18 i think its a good idea, passenger limiting though is stupid, whats that going to achieve?
I think the passenger thing oculd be to do with people showing off in front of mates in the car.
TBH theres been plans like these around for years but nothing ever happens...Can't see it making much difference anyway
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Ian W
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Being 18 with a license even with 12 months of lessons behind you will make you no more responsible than a 17 old with 3 months of lessons.
If anything it will make people worse as they will get the idea that "I've had 12 months of lessons, I must be the bollocks at driving now" and still drive like a tit.
Nothing will work, people pass there test and think they are all the best drivers in the world, we have all done it, nothing will change
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Jonny P
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i know your all saying about the bhp/tonne idea but at the end of the day. insurance is that high at the minute anyway 90% of people can't afford to insurance anything over a 1.4
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SetH
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no passengers between 10-20 betwen the hours of 11pm and 5am
dont you see, this is to stop you lot getting neded up in your sxi's and doing laps around the city in the wee hours with your vibe subs booming away.
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Demo
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seriously tho what if you wanted to take a girl out on a date.
"sorry luv i gotta drop you off and be home by 11 just incase i turn into a pumpkin"
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