Warren G
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i will be getting a lower front strut at some point, too see what its like
if you want a track road car, get adjusterable preload/rebound shocks, its not how low you car is, but how good your suspension is. but also bear in mind, the lower the centre of gravity the less body roll you will get
mines set really soft for road, and is more comfortable than GSI standard suspension( apart from speed bumps!!), but for the track stifferen the front right up, and the the back about half way and the car is set perfect, to stiff rear makes the handling feel very strange
muppetsport - you car problely handles better higher up because the camber is nearer 0 degrees, where as mines is around -65 front and -60mm back, but the camber is set at -0.5 degrees all round (was 2degrees front before adjusted it)
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Nic Barnes
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aye my suspension has been set up using some really expensive equipment and about 5 days of testing it until we were happy
such things like removing front arb on mine helps it through the corners as it has that little bit of body roll instead of just sliding out from under me
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by muppetsport
ask yourself this, out of all those saying its great, how many consistently do track days, or you would feel have enough experience of hard driving through corners to make judgement on a cars handling?
thats all i think about it. ive never had a problem with back end going out at all and mine light.
Hmmm.
Now that i have the RSX rear sus (cheers Willay) it does feel a lot better than it did b4 with it's FK dampers and 30mm eibach springs.
I do believe that if i did fit one and it didn't make any difference i would be able to tell coz the roads round here are about 80% 60 limits and very twisty.
I know how fast i can safely take each corner and how the car is going to react on each bump.
But it is only £100..........
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Jake
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Originally posted by muppetsport
such things like removing front arb on mine helps it through the corners as it has that little bit of body roll instead of just sliding out from under me
you said it handled cack without the arb then told me the other day you were putting it back on
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Chris F
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i crashed cos of mine 
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by muppetsport
aye my suspension has been set up using some really expensive equipment and about 5 days of testing it until we were happy
such things like removing front arb on mine helps it through the corners as it has that little bit of body roll instead of just sliding out from under me
So it is possible to have everything too hard and you need a little flex in there?
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Warren G
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only £100!!!
paid £30 for front strut, £25 for rear £0 for front GSI arb, coilovers £175 (halfords bargain!!)
so really it is rather expensive compared!
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Steve X16XE
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i crashed cos of mine
Please explain 
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by jake
you said it handled cack without the arb then told me the other day you were putting it back on
no i really didnt. you know best though
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by CorsaCF
i crashed cos of mine
Please explain
im guessing assumed it handled better took chances and found out it actually made no difference at all?
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by warren.g
only £100!!!
paid £30 for front strut, £25 for rear £0 for front GSI arb, coilovers £175 (halfords bargain!!)
so really it is rather expensive compared!
But wouldn't the car handle better with front and rear ARB's and front and rear strut braces?
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by muppetsport
quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by CorsaCF
i crashed cos of mine
Please explain
im guessing assumed it handled better took chances and found out it actually made no difference at all?
Auch....
Thats why i'm going onto the track. The walls are farther away except Cadwell
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SportBoy
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use the force luke
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Warren G
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Originally posted by Steve X16XE
So it is possible to have everything too hard and you need a little flex in there?
fitting struts/arb's help stiffen the body (which is good) and give less roll, a roll cage is the best thing though
but hard suspension isn't always the best option, stay away from cheap kits
[Edited on 09-07-2007 by warren.g]
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Jake
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I dont care what muppetsport says - I noticed a difference when i fitted the rear arb especially when i used the same roundabouts more or less every time i drive the car and it definately felt more stable. Unlike Warren I didnt think much of the front strut brace so i took it off - maybe it was too tight im not sure.
How a car handles is all down to personal preference
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by jake
How a car handles is all down to personal preference
agreed, if your preference is pretend mods that will make you think your in a go-kart and actually crash again, then yes, personal preference it is
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SportBoy
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rollcages, strut braces , roll bars 'can' induce understeer as it is can be too stiff
[Edited on 09-07-2007 by SportyBoy]
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by warren.g
fitting struts/arb's help stiffen the body (which is good) and give less roll, a roll cage is the best thing though
but hard suspension isn't always the best option, stay away from cheap kits
Cage will 100% be going in.
And cheap isn't in my dictionary (can't spell the V word )
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Nic Barnes
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vsport?
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Jake
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by jake
How a car handles is all down to personal preference
agreed, if your preference is pretend mods that will make you think your in a go-kart and actually crash again, then yes, personal preference it is
I know how a go kart handles and my car is nothing like that. Get over yourself
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by muppetsport
vsport?
Noooooo......
Had to google this "vocabulary"
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Nic Barnes
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you know best jake, im really sorry
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Jake
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i dont know best and neither do you so stop forcing your sarcastic comments and opinions on other people. Let them do what they want
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Chris F
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handbags out!
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Warren G
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
I dont care what muppetsport says - I noticed a difference when i fitted the rear arb especially when i used the same roundabouts more or less every time i drive the car and it definately felt more stable. Unlike Warren I didnt think much of the front strut brace so i took it off - maybe it was too tight im not sure.
How a car handles is all down to personal preference
i heard people say this too about strut braces, yet when i took mine off (to paint  ) i noticed alot more tire squeel and didnt handle as well
maybe its the set up of the car
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