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Cosmo
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TBH if I was a fireman and I was just going to get blamed everytime someone didnt survive I'd not bother trying to save anyone...not worth putting your own life in danger for the hassle!
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TBH i don't think you can blame the fire service, i am sure they done there best...They are not going not do there best when a guys life is at risk...
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wasnt there underwater divers there aswell?

fact is, in 21st century britian had the amputed and saved his life he could well of turned around and sued them!

firemen are trained for water but its only basic, and most of there equipment probably wouldnt work underwater
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4 hours and they let him die?


Come on.
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See, when I said about this originally I questioned the 4 hour time it took to save him and I got a flaming.

Does see like a complete shambles by the rescue services.
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how would you get him out? if his foot is stuck and the metal cutters wont work underwater?
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4 hours and they let him die?


Come on.


don't think they just let him die..
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how would you get him out? if his foot is stuck and the metal cutters wont work underwater?


Foot off/drain lid off, although I guess they considered both of those options.
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it was like a fast moving river tho, how exactly do you oporate equipment in that let alone stand up
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how would you get him out? if his foot is stuck and the metal cutters wont work underwater?


Foot off/drain lid off, although I guess they considered both of those options.


i want to know how the idiot gets his foot stuck in a drain anyway
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Presumable it was one of those drains in a kerb stone Steve, otherwise, I can't see how either

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They were going to amputate but they did'nt in the end so I believe?
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how would you get him out? if his foot is stuck and the metal cutters wont work underwater?


Foot off/drain lid off, although I guess they considered both of those options.
How do you cut somones foot off while they are up thier neck in water, surrounded by flood water thats probably full of sewage and other crap.
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I'd of tied a rope around him middle, tied the other end to the fire engine and drove away fast. If he came free then alls good, if he doed then he was gonna anyway!
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i agree cosmo at the worst it wouldve ripped his foot out of its socket and it wouldve been quick so pain would be over with fast
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One way of doing things!
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that is also why I am not in the emergency services
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dont see how he got hypothermia either cant see the waters being that cold at this time of the year
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dont see how he got hypothermia either cant see the waters being that cold at this time of the year


its becasue the fire fighters didnt strip off and warm him with their body heat whilst also giving their lives for him.
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Originally posted by Robin
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how would you get him out? if his foot is stuck and the metal cutters wont work underwater?


Foot off/drain lid off, although I guess they considered both of those options.
How do you cut somones foot off while they are up thier neck in water, surrounded by flood water thats probably full of sewage and other crap.


Using the fucking great pneumatic cutters on the fire engine?

or a hacksaw

or a rope around it and drive off in the fire engine.
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Originally posted by Robin
Using the fucking great pneumatic cutters on the fire engine?

or a hacksaw

or a rope around it and drive off in the fire engine.



under water with zero visability?!
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Apparently they did try to cut him free, but as soon as they did this he slipped further down, with his head underwater, so they put breathing mask on and decided to amputate, but he was in the water far too long
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Using the fucking great pneumatic cutters on the fire engine?

or a hacksaw

or a rope around it and drive off in the fire engine.



under water with zero visability?!


I'd give it a go, those cutters would do the job without being that accurate

I would assume the fire service did try these options though anyway.
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I said this was weird first time around.

And I still dont get it. I specify all sorts of drainage grilles and all of them can either be pulled out or simply undone.

According to the Sky report he died of hypothermia????

After four hours of attendance that pretty shit tbh
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in my opinion-in the space of 4 hours why was underwater breathing apparatus ready in case he did go under??

but if he died of hyperthermia then who knows. either way its tragic yes, but at the same time it was a freak accident also.

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