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Chances are those morals stem from religion years ago.


Morals like killing anyone who chooses not to believe in the word of God? Killing people for believing in another God? Killing all gay people? Al good examples of human compassion
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Your school couldn't have been very good at teaching that tbh Hammer
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My mum told me on the phone earlier that her & dad went for a walk, and people were being baptised in the river, they were dunking an old woman in the cold manky river, & people were clapping.......

My dad said 'freaks'
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quote:
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Chances are those morals stem from religion years ago.


Morals like killing anyone who chooses not to believe in the word of God? Killing people for believing in another God? Killing all gay people? Al good examples of human compassion


That's not what religion teaches you, none of them do.

That's down to people, not religion.
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Yip, agree Robin.

Again, the people that do this and blame on religion would have done it anyway and used a different excuse.
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Totally agree with Drunkenfool throughout!
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In my own personal opinion no, i suppose there is no way to prove that though without the use of a time machine though!


Well I just happen to have....
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Originally posted by drunkenfool
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Chances are those morals stem from religion years ago.


Morals like killing anyone who chooses not to believe in the word of God? Killing people for believing in another God? Killing all gay people? Al good examples of human compassion


That's not what religion teaches you, none of them do.

That's down to people, not religion.


All three examples are straight out of the bible, the so called "gospel" of truth that is the basis of christianity. If that isn't religious teachings, I dont know what is
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Is it not the old testament that says all the gays were killed with acid rain.

I'd put a bet on the whole world wanting to kill gays back then, and until very recently, nothing to do with religion.
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Oh...and I dont want to spoil the end of the book, but the twist at the end is that he isnt real.


I just read that for the 2nd time and it clicked what you were talking about

Im on chapter 3 now, its quite hard going though. Its basically just whats in the documentary, but in more detail, id suggest watching the docu first
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Religion makes good people do bad things...


No it doesn't, the sorts of people that do these things would have found another excuse if it wasn't for religion.

[Edited on 01-07-2007 by John]


I dont agree with that at all. Many of them were not "bad" people, but have been completely brainwashed into believing that what they are doing is actually God's work. They believe it so strongly that they are willing to sacrifice their lives and the lives of others, thinking that it will be a direct route to whatever their particular religion's concept of heaven is.


Exactly my point. Bravo.
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Oh...and I dont want to spoil the end of the book, but the twist at the end is that he isnt real.


I just read that for the 2nd time and it clicked what you were talking about



I did wonder why I didnt get a laugh!!
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Is it not the old testament that says all the gays were killed with acid rain.

I'd put a bet on the whole world wanting to kill gays back then, and until very recently, nothing to do with religion.


Never heard that one before, maybe though? It wasnt that long ago that homosexuality was considered completely normal, like in the roman times. It seems completely out of order to me that people think it is suitable of the death penalty though. I swear one of my dogs is gay cos he always tries to shag the younger male we have, I always break them up cos I dont want to see it, but I would never consider putting him down because of it
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I have my own religion.

Bexianity.
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And your dog wont be gay. Just sexually frustrated. I take it he hasn't be castrated?
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Another good presentation...
http://www.atheistnation.net/video/?video/00386
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I have my own religion.

Bexianity.


Is it any good? Your not too far from me, maybe I could come along to a service?!
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Yeah its fabulous. But my religion doesn't like scary clowns.

Oooh now theres an offer a girl just cant refuse! Haha.

[Edited on 01-07-2007 by novabex]
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Yeah its fabulous. But my religion doesn't like scary clowns.

Oooh now theres an offer a girl just cant refuse! Haha.



I said to a service, not for a service

That being said though.....
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quote:
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Yeah its fabulous. But my religion doesn't like scary clowns.

Oooh now theres an offer a girl just cant refuse! Haha.



I said to a service, not for a service

That being said though.....


I know what you said.
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Where in Preston you from?
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You could be some crazy stalker...

Penwortham.
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You could be some crazy stalker...

Penwortham.


Even closer to me than I thought

Im from Hesketh Bank, went to Hutton just down the road from Penwortham!
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you can do theology at uni, can you also study atheism at degree level?
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TBF Mark, I'm not sure there's much of a subject there to be able to have a degree in it

Q - Is religion good?
A - No

Q - Is there a god?
A - No

That's a 2:1 for you



[Edited on 01-07-2007 by Robin]

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