Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
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THIS IS OLD AS THE HILLS 
a loophole that has long long since been closed
ffs i remember reading this about 3 or 4 years ago 
[Edited on 18-04-2007 by Steve]
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marklaruk
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Registered: 4th Sep 04
Location: Leeds
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it doesnt work? i have just gone and ran a camera at 90mph to find out 
[Edited on 18-04-2007 by marklaruk]
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BeArDy
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Registered: 7th Aug 00
Location: Manchester
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The only thing which DID work do not know as I haven’t had any tickets for years
When you get your slip about who was driving as you was clocked speeding, Fill it in as normal saying you was speeding BUT do not sign it.
They will send out another letter saying you must sign, but again do not sign.
As it’s against the law to not give information BUT it’s also your human right to a fair trial so they would have to take you to court and prove it was you driving. So with camera’s which take phones from behind your fine.
The police do not follow it up as it would be thrown out of court if all they have is a photo of the back of the car (reason why all new cameras take pics from front to get photo of your face).
Famous story was 2 lads in a XR2 with blacked out windows got pulled over as no insurance came up then driving behind the car, when police went to the car both lads where sat in the back and both said the other was driving. Police could not do anything as they was not proof who was the drive.
Now I know this for a 10000% FACT, as I still have all the letters with dates on, and I can show you my driving license with no points from this time (I had ran a red light).
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Hamish
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Registered: 4th Apr 05
Location: Ashtead, Surrey Drives: 100bhp Mint with Hole
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
Famous story was 2 lads in a XR2 with blacked out windows got pulled over as no insurance came up then driving behind the car, when police went to the car both lads where sat in the back and both said the other was driving. Police could not do anything as they was not proof who was the drive.
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richthegill
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Registered: 6th Apr 07
Location: Crabbs Cross, Hereford and Worcester
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quote:
Originally posted by TomSBD
points only count for 3 years, after 4 years you can have them taken off but for insurance purposes they go back 5 years
You can apply to have them removed after the 3rd year. You do still have to notify your insurer going back 5 though. it won't affect the premium after 3 years though.
If you get points halfway through your insurance year, notify the insurance company straight away, as if you don't it could invalidate your insurance if you had an accident. They will add them on but you won't incur an additional premium. That will come when you go to renew.
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Danny P
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Registered: 20th Nov 02
Location: Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
As it’s against the law to not give information BUT it’s also your human right to a fair trial so they would have to take you to court and prove it was you driving. So with camera’s which take phones from behind your fine.
The police do not follow it up as it would be thrown out of court if all they have is a photo of the back of the car (reason why all new cameras take pics from front to get photo of your face).
As you say, failing to give information is against the law, and the ticket will just be withdrawn, and then you will be prosecuted for failing to give information.
Fair enough you wont get any points, but you will get a much bigger fine.
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Jamie
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Registered: 1st Apr 02
Location: Aberdeen
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Been around for years, i doubt it ever worked
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1.2-Ls-Corsa
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Registered: 13th Jul 02
Location: BEDFORDSHIRE
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I know lets try the "not speeding in the first place" thing yeah????
LMAO
NO worrys about ya license then lol stays clean as a whistle
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Mike GSi
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Registered: 3rd Jan 07
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Drives:Astra VXR
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Well ive gotta go to court on may 15th...for doing 70 in a 30, and overtaking on a solid white line!
somehow i dont think ill get away with "NO POINTS"
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VXRJay
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Registered: 18th Apr 07
Location: Northamptonshire
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Well, I passed a Police car at 105mph, not big and not clever but got NO points. Just a seven day ban, and 145 fine, plus 30 court costs. I'm not sure what was worse, 7 days not able to drive, or my mum having to take me to work every day.
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
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Do you have an offence code on your licence now though? Presumable your insurance is affected by it?
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VXRJay
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Registered: 18th Apr 07
Location: Northamptonshire
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Showed as SP30 on licence, but had no effect on insurance! Grovelled like a complete ar$e in court, and not ashamed of admitting it!!!
My "legal advisor" was amazed I got away so lightly. He expected me to be facing at least 2 week ban, if not more and a much higher fine.
[Edited on 18-04-2007 by VXRJay]
[Edited on 18-04-2007 by VXRJay]
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BeArDy
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Registered: 7th Aug 00
Location: Manchester
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All i know is what i have put 100% works, and has done for me.
I have all the letters from the police and can show no points on my licence.
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
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the justice system for traffic offences is very inconsistent, you see thieves that drive stolen vehicles with no tax insurance or anything get a 200 quid fine and a 6 month ban, and someone that is fully legal on the road whos strayed over 100 on the motorway get the same
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Ally
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Registered: 2nd Jul 03
Location: Pontypool Drives: a Skoda
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary
quote:
Originally posted by Ally
I'd like to know the name of the person as someone i know works for the magistrates court
Were you one of those people at school who was allways telling tales to the teacher?
Nope, i was suspended and got into alot of trouble. Like ian says, 3 points, or a criminal record for perverting the course of justice - you'd be a fool to choose the latter IMO
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