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dhdev

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12th Apr 07 at 20:14

From carfolio's figures, the 172 has 161bhp/ton and the 106 gti 127bhp/ton.
Thats quite a difference.
At speed the difference would be even more noticeable too, due to the power/drag ratio going in favour of the higher powered clio.

[Edited on 12-04-2007 by dhdev]

Dean B

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12th Apr 07 at 20:15

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by kz
106 GTi = 120bhp / 0-60 - 8.4

Clio 172 = 172bhp / 0-60 - 7.0

i have never driven either but they seem pretty different to me

7.4 the 106gti is mate.

the clio is not any quicker than a 106gti fact, if i could find that vid youd see

I have been in both cars before. Clio is quicker steve ffs, for once stop talking crap.

Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:16

from what iv heard the clios rarely actually get 172 bhp?
and the 106 is more like 148 bhp/ton

[Edited on 12-04-2007 by Steve]

Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:16

quote:
Originally posted by Dean B

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by kz
106 GTi = 120bhp / 0-60 - 8.4

Clio 172 = 172bhp / 0-60 - 7.0

i have never driven either but they seem pretty different to me

7.4 the 106gti is mate.

the clio is not any quicker than a 106gti fact, if i could find that vid youd see

I have been in both cars before. Clio is quicker steve ffs, for once stop talking crap.

lol your telling me youve sat in both cars and you think theyre faster? accurate test

iv raced many up a strip, and like i said video proof of track action

[Edited on 12-04-2007 by Steve]

Cupra Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:17

FFS enough of the 106 gti vs the world !!!!!

At the end of the day believe what you want, i have been in a "race" with one and to 110 it was even.

What is space inside em like? i may have a look at em on the weekend.

dhdev

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12th Apr 07 at 20:18

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
the 106 is more like 148 bhp/ton

[Edited on 12-04-2007 by Steve]

How! Surely they weigh at least 925kgs?

Dean B

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12th Apr 07 at 20:18

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Dean B

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by kz
106 GTi = 120bhp / 0-60 - 8.4

Clio 172 = 172bhp / 0-60 - 7.0

i have never driven either but they seem pretty different to me

7.4 the 106gti is mate.

the clio is not any quicker than a 106gti fact, if i could find that vid youd see

I have been in both cars before. Clio is quicker steve ffs, for once stop talking crap.

lol your telling me youve sat in both cars and you think theyre faster? accurate test

iv raced many up a strip, and like i said video proof of track action

[Edited on 12-04-2007 by Steve]

172 actully tend to make around 180bhp.

Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:18

yes i have also witnessed several attempts.

the 172's always seem to under achieve, i remember racing one in my leon when it was standard and my leon was creeping past, that was flat out on a dual carraigeway and figures for the leon were sposed to be 7.2 to 60

Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:19

quote:
Originally posted by dhdev

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
the 106 is more like 148 bhp/ton

[Edited on 12-04-2007 by Steve]

How! Surely they weigh at least 925kgs?

915kgs, and have 120 or 130bhp depending on the year

Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:19

ollie will know what im talking about here

Dean B

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12th Apr 07 at 20:21

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
ollie will know what im talking about here

Cleary everyone on here knows what you talking about, that's why your hated.

[Edited on 12-04-2007 by Dean B]

mark_gsi

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12th Apr 07 at 20:21

you've started one of here cupra steve

steve you cherp on more then my budgie. 106gti just beat everything on the roads dont they.

Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:21

thanks, id be worried if i was liked by half the people on here

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12th Apr 07 at 20:22

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by kz
106 GTi = 120bhp / 0-60 - 8.4

Clio 172 = 172bhp / 0-60 - 7.0

i have never driven either but they seem pretty different to me

7.4 the 106gti is mate.

the clio is not any quicker than a 106gti fact, if i could find that vid youd see

where did you get that 0-60 time from? a quick google search says...

Peugeout quote 8.7 seconds as the 0-62 for the 106 GTi...

For starters the 106 has a 0-60 of 8.7...

A 106 gti will need a fair amount of work to run sub 7 secs. The factory quote it as 8.2 secs to 0-60 (not 7.4)...

Technical specifications for Peugeot 106 GTI cars available on Yahoo! Cars UK. ... 0-60 MPH/0-100 KH, 8.7 s...

125 mph, 8.0secs 0-60; 30-38mpg...

Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:23

its 7.4 same as the saxo vts, peugeot timed there cars differently with a payload, a passengar and fuel, this gave a slower 0-60 then the identical VTS, but also earned it an insurance group lower

my old one as standard ran mid 15's, no 8.7 second car would run mid 15's

its common knowledge they are low 7's anyway

evo mag timed it at 7.4 also

[Edited on 12-04-2007 by Steve]

Cupra Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:24

yahoo being a well known it's car facts!

dhdev

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12th Apr 07 at 20:24

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
915kgs, and have 120 or 130bhp depending on the year

Never heard a standard figure of 130bhp quoted before

SportBoy

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12th Apr 07 at 20:25

0-60 doesnt mean fuck all .. a 106 gti would get humped all over buy a big lardy v6 vectra on a run upto 130mph

Dean B

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12th Apr 07 at 20:25

Tbh yahoo's car facts sound as accurate as steves.

Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:25

between the early engines and the later TU54J with the egr valve, have a slightly different head, its 5% freerer flowing and doesnt have an egr valve.

the engine can be identified by two prongs.

you want more info pm luckyb

mark_gsi

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12th Apr 07 at 20:26

quote:
Originally posted by dhdev

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
915kgs, and have 120 or 130bhp depending on the year

Never heard a standard figure of 130bhp quoted before

im sure that was only vts's because of some "special air filter" shite

Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:27

read above post

Cupra Steve

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12th Apr 07 at 20:27

quote:
Originally posted by SportyBoy
0-60 doesnt mean fuck all .. a 106 gti would get humped all over buy a big lardy v6 vectra on a run upto 130mph

purely because the driver of the 106 would be too scared to take it over 120!

SportBoy

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12th Apr 07 at 20:28

quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve

quote:
Originally posted by SportyBoy
0-60 doesnt mean fuck all .. a 106 gti would get humped all over buy a big lardy v6 vectra on a run upto 130mph

purely because the driver of the 106 would be too scared to take it over 120!

of course

dhdev

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12th Apr 07 at 20:28

EVO magazine state
106gti
120bhp, 950kgs and a tested 7.4sec 0-60 with a 22.2sec 0-100

Clio 172
170bhp, 1110kgs and a tested 7.1sec 0-60 with an 18.9sec 0-100

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