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Author Paypal taken 550£ from my bank account!! Money stolen.
jay kay
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http://www.topsecretsoftware.com/remote-spyware-warning.html
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He could of installed something from a 3rd party site, which the keylogger was in.

OR

Your password was easy.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/09/key_log_scan/
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now watch Steve backtrack a little more and 'explain' what he really meant was...
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quote:
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http://www.topsecretsoftware.com/remote-spyware-warning.html


that mentions nothing about keyloggers, and warns you not to run programs, again it could not just install itself
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/09/key_log_scan/


that shows that the software is hidden in the coolwebsearch program, again something you would have to install or allow

[Edited on 13-03-2007 by Steve]
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there is no way software can just appear on your machine without you allowing or installing it in some way
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by jay kay
http://www.topsecretsoftware.com/remote-spyware-warning.html


that mentions nothing about keyloggers, and warns you not to run programs, again it could not just install itself


agree, user would have to install it.
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What Steve is saying is right. They cannot install themselves, they have to be allowed/installed.
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and as for that CWS and hidden code any half decent AV will pick them up.
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yes but that wasnt what he was on about before. I totally agree you would have to install it (or install another programme you didnt know it was part of) but Steve was on about before that there was 'no way a virus could do that' not 'no way unless you downloaded it'
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if you read i think he relied to Ales post in which he said about a virus installing a keylogger.
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which is not likely unless the user authorises it
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yeah I know later on he changed what he was saying, but his inital replies were that it just cannot happen.
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yes mr steve said that nom such program exists and in theory why would someone install a trojan knowingly.

They install what they think are normal apps but in the background the trojan is installing itself .
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
yes but that wasnt what he was on about before. I totally agree you would have to install it (or install another programme you didnt know it was part of) but Steve was on about before that there was 'no way a virus could do that' not 'no way unless you downloaded it'


yes and what im saying is right, unles you download it, wether that be from an email attachment or authorizing a download by clicking yes, or hidden in an activex control either way your still downloading and allowing it to install.
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can be done though active x
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Originally posted by Cosmo
yeah I know later on he changed what he was saying, but his inital replies were that it just cannot happen.

no i said near enough from the start that i know software DOES exist but not magically appear on your pc, maybe my first reply wasnt specific enough
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either way, it CAN be done and it COULD have been done on his computer.
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TBH you have to be a chump really to install such a program. One example at work was a teacher who whilst having his laptop checked had 923 viruses
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
either way, it CAN be done and it COULD have been done on his computer.



show me where this software is that doesnt need user interaction to install itself
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Im not saying it can install itself.

Im saying he or someone else with access to the computer could of clicked 'install' or whatever without knowing. Either because they didnt know what they were doing, or the virus was part of a programme they wanted.
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Steve is a noob.
Stop moving the goal posts, nobody intentionally installs harmful stuff to their computer, so quit stating the obvious about things are unable to set themselves up for the sake of an arguement.
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steve you are an attention hoaaaar
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl
Steve is a noob.
Stop moving the goal posts, nobody intentionally installs harmful stuff to their computer, so quit stating the obvious about things are unable to set themselves up for the sake of an arguement.



no but you would be suprised how many chumps do (not saying intacepta has )

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