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Tom
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Originally posted by KROOZUK-BEN
no i've never ignored a level crossing barrier sign..i was saying signs in general people don't usually read.. now bakc on topic... the top gear stunt. people shouldn't be so idiotic to jump them in the first place...


FPMSL you really are clever, i think you'll find we digressed slightly because you started talking about trains having the same speed limits as cars.

Can I just point out also in bold above - if you are of the opinion that people shouldn't jump out in the first place (hence read the signs)what warrants a 70mph per hour speed limit for trains?
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FACT:

My town (Dingwall) is the only town in the whole of the uk to have more than one level crossing without barriers

all 3 are pretty close to the school aswell, been numerous crashes and still we have no barriers
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TBH.. I wouldn't fancy my chances if a train hit me at 30mph in the Corsa.


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Trains having the same speed limit as cars WTF

My dad works in a signal box and some of the stuff he comes out with is unbelieveable, the sheer amount of people who try their luck at beating the system is ridiculous. He's had to stop a train before when some drunkard started walking up the line in the direction of a freight train
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i'm entitled to my opinion without people mocking it thanks. if you have a problem, i don't really care to be honest.

keep on topic...
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Trains having the same speed limit Trains generally go in a straight line and have no other trains to worry about (except for the odd tragic collision) so why should they only do 70
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quote:
Originally posted by KROOZUK-BEN
i'm entitled to my opinion without people mocking it thanks. if you have a problem, i don't really care to be honest.

keep on topic...


How old are you, are blonde?
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom
quote:
Originally posted by KROOZUK-BEN
i'm entitled to my opinion without people mocking it thanks. if you have a problem, i don't really care to be honest.

keep on topic...


How old are you, are blonde?


18 years old, and no, if you have a problem with me, take it up with one of the moderators. no need to spam a thread up because you have a problem with my opinion.
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I just disagree with your theory and I am not 'mocking your theory' I am mocking the fact that you keep saying things like lets get back on subject
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If you can't obey the warning signs then good luck.

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I have heard of someone getting sacked for speeding in a train lol.. they do get into trouble but they just get warned most of the time and get so many chances.. apparently. dont quote me on that though.
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quote:
Originally posted by KROOZUK-BEN
quote:
Originally posted by ed
Was that an attempt of a joke? Or are you an idiot?


no, i don't see why trains should be allowed to do 100mph whilst we cna only do 70 legally...

maybe the person wouldn't have died if the train was doing 70? although they most probably still would've


You have got to be joking what a stupid thing to say
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quote:
Originally posted by KROOZUK-BEN
i'm entitled to my opinion without people mocking it thanks. if you have a problem, i don't really care to be honest.

keep on topic...
You opened your mouth without thinking though. If people jump trafic lights then they die. Should speed limits be lowered to 30mph because of this?
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agree with ed on this. but tbh even if the train speed limits were lowered to 30mph. A train weighs considerably more that a car, so there will still be fatalities
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Train VS. car. The train is always going to win. Lowering the speed limits is not the answer. People are going to die taking risks. No one cries when a sky diver dies jumping out a plane and they don't rip the schute in time cos they are taking risks.
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quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
agree with ed on this. but tbh even if the train speed limits were lowered to 30mph. A train weighs considerably more that a car, so there will still be fatalities


Exactly, a Train travelling at 30mph would still smash the shit out of anything in its path. The Train used on TG didn't have brakes either so slghtly unfair test, but the message is still clear. Do not try and jump level crossings!
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the only problem is if a high speed train hits something on a level crossing there is a risk of de-railing therfore injury to innocent train passengers plus damage to the network / train.

As for the car drivers all part of 'natural selection' and evolution get rid of the idiots one by one.
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As soon as clarckson said the lesson to be learned from this is always wear a high vis jacket you knew there would be complaints.

People who take the chance of driving infront of a 100mph train should maybe deserve to die.
At the very least they shouldn't be allowed to drive a car.
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quote:
Originally posted by KROOZUK-BEN
no, i don't see why trains should be allowed to do 100mph whilst we cna only do 70 legally...


The train runs on a track, and cars do not. It's very unlikely for the train to hit anything, whereas there can be hundreds of cars on one stretch of motorway at any one time. If people start jumping out in front of cars, should we drop the speed limits? No, exactly. If you're going to run a level crossing, you deserve to be hit by the train IMO.
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maybe the person wouldn't have died if the train was doing 70? although they most probably still would've

You're talking about a vehicle that weighs a few tonnes and takes about a mile to stop from 70mph (and a mile and a half from 100mph). They'd have died anyway.
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I don't understand why TG showing it would have anything to do with someone still jumping the crossing
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quote:
Originally posted by John
As soon as clarckson said the lesson to be learned from this is always wear a high vis jacket you knew there would be complaints.

People who take the chance of driving infront of a 100mph train should maybe deserve to die.
At the very least they shouldn't be allowed to drive a car.


Correct john.

That way we can try and at least breed out the stupidity
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i do like the way that Top Gear doesnt really listen to the complaints though and carry on regardless, if all places did this, people wouldnt bother complaining,

IMO people complain more now because they think everyone will be up in arms about it like theyre center of the earth
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quote:
Originally posted by Rachel H
People are incredibly stupid in Norwich


ive never been hit by a train and i cross a level crossing regular

That happened by my mates house, poor lass has seen about 3 people killed there in 9 months now
BYRON
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just noticed that the usual repeat of top gear has been pulled on bbc2, to be replaced with a 'best of'...seems strange
Kerry
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ive got it saved on my sky box i can watch it as much as i like

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