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Cosmo
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no, was being serious!

There are obviously some parents who dont give a shit what their kids are upto, sometimes massive gangs of about 15-20 kids aged about 7-12 outside the front of mine at about 11pm hanging off the bridge wires and giving shit to people coming over it.

Gets me mad
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thanks for all the comments.

i thought my last paragraph would have shown that im not being serious though


you are a woman hating man-dyke
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Izzy won't be 'hanging around' anywhere under my rule

She can hate and resent me all she wants, but i'm sure when she's my age she'll appreciate my efforts and love me again
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Just for the the Corsasport records, i've also asked Kat & Izzy to move in with me. Got Kat a key cut on Saturday, should be in by this weekend

Responsible family guy!!
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I agree, although while I was brought up with my mother being the housewife looking after me & my sister & imo dont me the world of good I think now in my generation that will not be possible in order to live by todays standards.
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Since the demise of thatcherism and the fact that we are seeing an increasing trend of 'career women' since the 90's is it a coincidence that we now have an increasing amount of chav youngsters?

I believe the rise of the chav youth to be due to unattentive or a lacking in proper child development that would be delivered by mothers at home. Historically mothers have always provided the biggest input into bringing up a child, now that a siginifcant number of them are 'career women' this is no longer the case.

Do you think they should get back in the kitchen do some scrubbing and spend time teaching/discipling their children?

dicuss...

[Edited on 27-02-2007 by SetH]



i concur
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i blame northeners


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i blame rap music!
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i blame northeners





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quote:
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thanks for all the comments.

i thought my last paragraph would have shown that im not being serious though


you are a woman hating man-dyke


personal attack and i only hate women if they have a loose vagina.
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But chavs are poor. Career Women normally aren't. Unless you are talking about any woman with a job.
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Problem with career women is they a. Think being a housewife is degrading when what is more important than bringing new life into thd world and caring nurturing & educating them?! Thats called life!
B. The ones who want the big hotshot career AND a baby but cant wait to send the poor kid off to some stranger to bring it up are the ones causing the problem. Problem with feminism the world is not enough.

anyway upmost respect for anyond trying to do the right thing when bringing up a child. The child should be the priority over anything else. That is the downfall of alot of parents imo.

and i also agree chavs can come from good backgrounds as my sister was a perfect example. Shes grown out of it mostly now but her year at school was full of god awfull miscreants who alot of are now in prison or drug addicts. So i agree but think its a bigger more complicated picture
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jambo i have fallen for you very strongly recently, i wish to dock.
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Should be able to beat children. In fact, if you are walking down the street and you see a child doing something you don't like you should go to prison for not beating some sense into them.
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Theres more pressure on women to stay in work nowdays as a single salary wont bring in enough to give them the standard of life they desire. Thats why alot of kids from supposedly 'good homes' get dragged up & become scum....the parents are never there as their out working to pay for the big 4 bed detached home, 2 new cars & 2 foreign holidays & now kids in the latest gear, nike trainers & sony PSP’s etc etc That’s why………………..pre Thatcher people just made do with what they had & there wasn’t half the greed there is nowdays.
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Should be able to beat children. In fact, if you are walking down the street and you see a child doing something you don't like you should go to prison for not beating some sense into them.


Agree it should be law to give any under 16's a pasting if their caught doing wrong!!
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Yeah agree with this, if everyone went round kicking the anti social little twats heads in then they probably wouldn't be so anti social
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It's the sense of immunity from the law mostly. Even when you turn 18 and punished as an adult the penalties are laughable.
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Yeah agree with this, if everyone went round kicking the anti social little twats heads in then they probably wouldn't be so anti social
Well ok then... The whole reasonable force thing that the Police have should be relaxed a little. The problem is that kids, or any for that matter, aren't scared of breaking the law.
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parents and police should be allowed to hit the little fuckers, theyll soon stop causing shit if they know theyll get a beating for it.


Totally agree. This country has gone soft.
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Agreed. The lack of punishment means there is no deterrent to not do whatever the fuck they like. People have forgotten that humans are essentialy animals and punishment worked since civilisation has been existing so getting a smack when theyve done wrong isnt going to scar them or tell them violence is ok. Gtf
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i blame it on the lack of discipline, i was always a good boy because i know for a fact that my dad would have given me a clip around the head. Nobody can touch kids these days and they know it, they now do what they want with no fear of the backlash.
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why are there 'chavs'? its simple, its down to political correctness and stupid european laws.

those things lead to lack of control which leads to lack of respect for those controlling them.

for example: teachers cant shout at kids these days like they used to, when I was in school teachers used to grab kids and pin them against a wall! now they have lost these powers, they have lost the respect and the 'fear' element. when that goes, so does the behaviour and leads to lack of dicipline.
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Izzy won't be 'hanging around' anywhere under my rule

She can hate and resent me all she wants, but i'm sure when she's my age she'll appreciate my efforts and love me again


Good theory that, you are there to be parents and do whats best for them, not to be their best mates. I think this is where alot go wrong.
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Originally posted by Dave A
why are there 'chavs'? its simple, its down to political correctness and stupid european laws.

those things lead to lack of control which leads to lack of respect for those controlling them.

for example: teachers cant shout at kids these days like they used to, when I was in school teachers used to grab kids and pin them against a wall! now they have lost these powers, they have lost the respect and the 'fear' element. when that goes, so does the behaviour and leads to lack of dicipline.


exactly, and no authority = no respect, no respect = little cunty kids.

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