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You don't just have to find the planet similar to earth, you have to get there at the right time as well.
But, with the ability to travel forwards or backwards in time, you could establish if the planet was, at some point, capable, and go back to that point.
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Exactly Robin
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Indeed.
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even if you was to be able to generate enough energy to even create some kind of distorted field which sped up or slowed down time, you would not be able to control it, further more, the planet would not be in the same space and time as you are in that 'field', the planet doesnt stay still, neither do galaxies etc, you would need to dynamically move your position as well...
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Linking into my point drax, if time travel is possible, space exploration is easy.
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Tony, the 'theory'* of his method of time travel is that black holes are used to travel.
CERN's particle accelerator will create mini black holes, and, recent advances in technology have compacted the size of particle accelerators.
In 2036 (or whenever) there is no reason why a particle accelerator wouldn't fit in a briefcase, and thus a portable black hole machine.
*I used the inverted commas as it could be a theory, or could be real.
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~"Titor would then feel the pull of up to 2Gs due to the gravity generated by the machine, and the vehicle would appear to speed up as light was bent around it. Except for supplies of compressed air, the only source of oxygen would be an air pocket trapped around the vehicle. Titor estimated the speed of travel at around ten years per hour, and the time machine's accuracy of travel at up to sixty years, although he said this was expected to be improved upon by researchers in his own time."
There is no mention of landing back on a planet, on the ground, not inside a wall / rock / out in space etc.
They talk of putting some machine in a 1969 corvette...
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I have no problem gripping multi dimensional thoeries.. but traveling BACK through time, and then returning to a point of origin is a little far fetched dont you think?
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do clean up what i said in teh last page, yes it would depend on peoples perceptions of civil war, and yes people stealing hardly accounts for a war.
drax, i hadn't even taken the locations into consideration, well done. it also a very good point, i dont recall reading about it anywhere but if they had mastered this location system too then they should as Ash said be able to travel deep into Space.
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There's too many vagueries for it to be wholly convincing. And his standard response is a kind of "why should I prove myself to you?".
You'll notice this response from corsa owners who claim to drive calibras for example.
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drax, he explains that he won't get back to his original point of origin, dimensionally speaking, as the likelihood of reaching his exact "path" in time is in the infinities to one.
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Which then begs the question, Andy, why was he here on a research mission if he can't get back to his point of origin to deliver his findings?
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a good watch
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4183875433858020781&q=horizon+m-theory
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 precisely, another hole in the story
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According to some googling, he can't work out how old he was either 
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Ah well, the CS think tank exposes another fraud.
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I've worked it out.
It's Jack.
Listen. Ok.
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Agree.
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Also, time is a human mind set.. it doesnt exist, you are simply aware of what has happened and that there is stuff yet to be done.
There is only possiblity for infinate universes which would allow for 'time' but not in a cronological order that you could call time.
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this thread needs drugs.
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Originally posted by drax
Also, time is a human mind set.. it doesnt exist, you are simply aware of what has happened and that there is stuff yet to be done.
There is only possiblity for infinate universes which would allow for 'time' but not in a cronological order that you could call time.
If you believe in a big bang, then even just accounting for every universe whose bang happened a moment after the preceding one creates an infinite stream, without factoring in everything else thats ever happened.
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no.
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Can someone point to where he states he can't get back to his origin?
As a lot of what he has posted is that he is capable of going back and traveling to different worldlines (i think, it's the theory that there are multiple lines of time running parallel to each other that never connect/collide with one another).
He also states that his "computers" uses time (seconds to be exact) to sync with and that the (what ever) gravity system (used to push him through/back time im guessing) measures samples around his time machine and if it detects an error it goes back to the previous sample and continues. Though he continues to states that the accuracy of the time machine isn't brilliant, his example 'if he wanted to go back 2000 years to see christ, the chances of that happening is slim to none due to inaccuracies of the system'. But the (current) accuracy of his system allows him to go back to his origin, the miltary base in florida.
Though i agree, he was more than a little vague with some of his answers, though he did seem to have a lot to say when questioned about his so called time machine.
Plus that photo of him showing time bending, surely he would be in the drivers seat of the car (LHD being in the states) and that shows him in the passenger seat.
And im sure that they would have a dedicated machine rather than a device that can some how be fitted to anything, including a 1960's chevy
Eitherway, none of us are physicist so we don't even know if any of it is even remotely possible or what it means.
But whats to say that it is true, that some company is secretly working on time travelling technology now and that they have been testing out.?
Infact, whats to say that we have HAD contact with aliens (less likely this one if you take what Titor says about UFOs/Aliens in 2036 ie: same state as it is currently), living amongst us with the government using their technology - you never know, that food blender you're using could well be technology from another planet!? 
[Edited on 25-02-2007 by Dom]
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The 60s Chevy blends in though Dom, a DeLorean with fuck off vents all over it, would not
Why would he come here for a computer if there was no way of getting back?
Seems like a clever bloke with a lot of time to concoct a fairly convincing story, about a subject which 99.9% of the population of the world don't have ANY idea about.
The fact that he mentions nuclear war is just because, like Ash said, we are all scared of it. We're worried about some random country not giving a toss about MAD, it's THE scary thing of our generation, hence the story around it, because people listen to it more.
If it is true, we're all fucked.
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If it is true, we won't know much about it anyway, so why bother worrying?
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