paggy23
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just messin pal be reet 
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Iain M
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Location: Wigan - Drives 272bhp corsa ZLET
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oh ok yes i do go on asda but very rarely drive just go and park up
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paggy23
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yea seen u on there a few times when ive been doin the big shop!
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Iain M
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i'll give  next time i see ya then
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paggy23
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dont go in my car its off road atm 
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paggy23
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were did you have your conversion done?
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Andy GSi
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricky-Lee53
quote:
Originally posted by Andy GSi
I would say DONT do it:
a) You are far to young (insurance is going to b sky high)
b) As said you will end up crashing due to lake of experience on the roads, with that power
c) People will still sh*t on you as they arent that quick as everyone makes out they are, been there done that
d)Remember the maintaince costs, they dont all run well after the conversion, i spent loads on mine.
There is alot more than racing everyone. There are more disadcantages than advantages.
I would wait two years build up your NCB and get a faster STANDARD car, then play with that tuning it up etc.
The only people who are saying yes on here are teenagers. People who have been there done it etc, are giving you the right advice
You had a shit conversion or a tuned Astra then. As mine would kill an Astra turbo.
I went from 90bhp to 300bhp+ in under a year.
The slowest car i drove i crashed...
Mine was fine, never missed a beat. (1 time it wasn't running right it was free to fix it)
My sport however needed a headgasket, rocker cover gasket and a couple of sensors.
I did 10,000miles in about 8 months with the XE fitted.
I did fit a clutch though but thats a wear and tear item.
Insurance is gonna cost £1000 on anything. Why not pay the extra 50% and drive something you enjoy.
The conversion wasn’t shit, spent a lot on all the right parts etc, went well for 12months, but was off the road most weekends sorting out teething problems. But if you ask the majority of XE owners on here, that they are repairing/replacing something most weekends.
I paided 1110 fc on mine when I was 21, and would I say it was worth it?? No. it had 164bhp and to me it was steady power, nothing to say wow. I am not saying the Astra turbo is WOW. But it would beat my xe corsa, and a fair few more xe corsa’s not tuned.
Its up to you at the end of the day if you are willing to pay between 1.5k – 2.5k on insurance when 18, and have money to through at a corsa, go for it. If it makes you happy there isn’t a problem. But I am just outlining what he has to overcome before he gets his xe corsa on the road and all legal etc.
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Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy GSi
I would say DONT do it:
a) You are far to young (insurance is going to b sky high)
b) As said you will end up crashing due to lake of experience on the roads, with that power
c) People will still sh*t on you as they arent that quick as everyone makes out they are, been there done that
d)Remember the maintaince costs, they dont all run well after the conversion, i spent loads on mine.
There is alot more than racing everyone. There are more disadcantages than advantages.
I would wait two years build up your NCB and get a faster STANDARD car, then play with that tuning it up etc.
The only people who are saying yes on here are teenagers. People who have been there done it etc, are giving you the right advice
Replies to...
1) insurance is sky high for a 1.2 so i'd personally prefer to pay more for a car i'm happy with!!!
2) I went from a 1.4 to a 1.8Turbo with 200bhp and not even come close to crashing it, if your sensible and drive to your ability then you won't crash it!
3) This could be true, i don't know, never driven one, raced a few, only 2 beat me but they were 2.1's with throttle bodies that were doing mid 13's 1/4 miles.
4) Any car can be expensive, any second hand / brand new car can have problems, at the end of the day if he keeps it standard it should be ok.
i think i have justified my argument and although i am a teenager and i haven't owned a corsa but i have gone from no power to a lot more power, i pay insurance and i haven't crashed!!!
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Ricky-Lee53
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy GSi
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky-Lee53
quote:
Originally posted by Andy GSi
I would say DONT do it:
a) You are far to young (insurance is going to b sky high)
b) As said you will end up crashing due to lake of experience on the roads, with that power
c) People will still sh*t on you as they arent that quick as everyone makes out they are, been there done that
d)Remember the maintaince costs, they dont all run well after the conversion, i spent loads on mine.
There is alot more than racing everyone. There are more disadcantages than advantages.
I would wait two years build up your NCB and get a faster STANDARD car, then play with that tuning it up etc.
The only people who are saying yes on here are teenagers. People who have been there done it etc, are giving you the right advice
You had a shit conversion or a tuned Astra then. As mine would kill an Astra turbo.
I went from 90bhp to 300bhp+ in under a year.
The slowest car i drove i crashed...
Mine was fine, never missed a beat. (1 time it wasn't running right it was free to fix it)
My sport however needed a headgasket, rocker cover gasket and a couple of sensors.
I did 10,000miles in about 8 months with the XE fitted.
I did fit a clutch though but thats a wear and tear item.
Insurance is gonna cost £1000 on anything. Why not pay the extra 50% and drive something you enjoy.
The conversion wasn’t shit, spent a lot on all the right parts etc, went well for 12months, but was off the road most weekends sorting out teething problems. But if you ask the majority of XE owners on here, that they are repairing/replacing something most weekends.
I paided 1110 fc on mine when I was 21, and would I say it was worth it?? No. it had 164bhp and to me it was steady power, nothing to say wow. I am not saying the Astra turbo is WOW. But it would beat my xe corsa, and a fair few more xe corsa’s not tuned.
Its up to you at the end of the day if you are willing to pay between 1.5k – 2.5k on insurance when 18, and have money to through at a corsa, go for it. If it makes you happy there isn’t a problem. But I am just outlining what he has to overcome before he gets his xe corsa on the road and all legal etc.
I think you are getting confused in what feels and what is actually quick.
A turbo gives you a kick at 3500 revs, so it feels quicker than it is. A great example of this is a diesel turbo.
The redtop is known for been a "square" engine, with a very good torque curve, however this makes it feel slower than it is.
Anyway... off this site, not sure how good the figures are.
Vauxhall Astra Coupe Turbo 2000 187 2.9 7.2 18.3 15.6 93
Vauxhall Astra GSi 16v 1991 150 n/a 7.2 n/a 15.9 n/a
Now imagine the latter with a 200kg diet.
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Filby1
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well i pay £1800 on my 106 GTI and im 23. after a fault claim, a friend of mine pays £2500 at 19 going 20 on a punto GT and we both live in low risk post codes with fully standard cars.
So do the math (hahah) Corsa as easy to pinch and conversion costs of almost 2k if you do it right and recon engine buget for even minor probs like dicky sensors ect at 60-100 quid each and your low age of 18 might get insured may not but prob be between 2.5-3k
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Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Filby1
well i pay £1800 on my 106 GTI and im 23. after a fault claim, a friend of mine pays £2500 at 19 going 20 on a punto GT and we both live in low risk post codes with fully standard cars.
So do the math (hahah) Corsa as easy to pinch and conversion costs of almost 2k if you do it right and recon engine buget for even minor probs like dicky sensors ect at 60-100 quid each and your low age of 18 might get insured may not but prob be between 2.5-3k
well i was 18 when i got my Seat Ibiza Cupra, 1.8 turbo and my insurance i found out yesterday is £1700, i'm getting a 106 gti on sunday and i got a quote when i was 18 and i was going to recieve a £106 refund! So you paying £1800 at 23 is madness.
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paggy23
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It all depends on the circumstances involed such as where you live etc etc etc
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Andy GSi
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Location: Shropshire, Drives 2.0l 16v Corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricky-Lee53
quote:
Originally posted by Andy GSi
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky-Lee53
quote:
Originally posted by Andy GSi
I would say DONT do it:
a) You are far to young (insurance is going to b sky high)
b) As said you will end up crashing due to lake of experience on the roads, with that power
c) People will still sh*t on you as they arent that quick as everyone makes out they are, been there done that
d)Remember the maintaince costs, they dont all run well after the conversion, i spent loads on mine.
There is alot more than racing everyone. There are more disadcantages than advantages.
I would wait two years build up your NCB and get a faster STANDARD car, then play with that tuning it up etc.
The only people who are saying yes on here are teenagers. People who have been there done it etc, are giving you the right advice
You had a shit conversion or a tuned Astra then. As mine would kill an Astra turbo.
I went from 90bhp to 300bhp+ in under a year.
The slowest car i drove i crashed...
Mine was fine, never missed a beat. (1 time it wasn't running right it was free to fix it)
My sport however needed a headgasket, rocker cover gasket and a couple of sensors.
I did 10,000miles in about 8 months with the XE fitted.
I did fit a clutch though but thats a wear and tear item.
Insurance is gonna cost £1000 on anything. Why not pay the extra 50% and drive something you enjoy.
The conversion wasn’t shit, spent a lot on all the right parts etc, went well for 12months, but was off the road most weekends sorting out teething problems. But if you ask the majority of XE owners on here, that they are repairing/replacing something most weekends.
I paided 1110 fc on mine when I was 21, and would I say it was worth it?? No. it had 164bhp and to me it was steady power, nothing to say wow. I am not saying the Astra turbo is WOW. But it would beat my xe corsa, and a fair few more xe corsa’s not tuned.
Its up to you at the end of the day if you are willing to pay between 1.5k – 2.5k on insurance when 18, and have money to through at a corsa, go for it. If it makes you happy there isn’t a problem. But I am just outlining what he has to overcome before he gets his xe corsa on the road and all legal etc.
I think you are getting confused in what feels and what is actually quick.
A turbo gives you a kick at 3500 revs, so it feels quicker than it is. A great example of this is a diesel turbo.
The redtop is known for been a "square" engine, with a very good torque curve, however this makes it feel slower than it is.
Anyway... off this site, not sure how good the figures are.
Vauxhall Astra Coupe Turbo 2000 187 2.9 7.2 18.3 15.6 93
Vauxhall Astra GSi 16v 1991 150 n/a 7.2 n/a 15.9 n/a
Now imagine the latter with a 200kg diet.
I can see where you are coming from, and i agree, but this isnt what the topic is about. He is wanting to know is it worth doing the conversion at his age etc.
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Filby1
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after a bump tho mate? il have to look around, thats with flux, who ya with mate
[Edited on 30-11-2006 by Filby1]
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Ricky-Lee53
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy GSi
I can see where you are coming from, and i agree, but this isnt what the topic is about. He is wanting to know is it worth doing the conversion at his age etc.
I say yes because.
He's going pay loads for insurance anyway. Whats an extra 500?
The reason i brought this up is, you get very good performance for not a lot of cash.
You have a lot of fun in a sleeper.
IMO its best to do a conversion at this age. Would you want to be 25 with a 2litre corsa?
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Filby1
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No i would get something a little better to begin with thats fast anyway, then buy a Teg at 25
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Gareth
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Sell up and buy one already done...
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Nic Barnes
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do it coz it be wikid fast and beat all da doyz in der carz dey tink is fast yeah. dont declare it, yo be a fool if yo do like, as yo will git yer insurance and tax for nowt eh. yo, then yo be cruizin like da big boys poppin da flames
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BabyBlade
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No.
Your 18 and even If you get insurance it'll be stupidly high.
You won't get the money back for the car which you throw at it getting it converted.
So basically If you did do it, in two years time you would have lost £1000's.
Thats of course if you don't crash which no reflection on you just the circumstances is probable you would.
Depends how much money you have and how much you REALLY want a 2.0 Corsa.
But to a normal 18 year old I'd say it's a stupid move.
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deano87
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Registered: 21st Oct 06
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No.
Insurance (he will be paying atleast £2k I reckon), fuel economy, maintenance, tax, easier to speed = fines etc - just put up with it for 2 years.
I went from a 1.4 16v Zetec engined Fiesta Mk4 (my girlfriends car) at 18 years old and have to put up with a 12v Corsa for 3 years whilst at Uni. Think how that must be.
Think yourself lucky you've got a nice, 1.2 16v SXi Corsa which are fine at motorway speeds, you've got some refinement. Build up your no claims, experience and then think about changing.
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Andy GSi
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Registered: 24th Mar 02
Location: Shropshire, Drives 2.0l 16v Corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by BabyBlade
No.
Your 18 and even If you get insurance it'll be stupidly high.
You won't get the money back for the car which you throw at it getting it converted.
So basically If you did do it, in two years time you would have lost £1000's.
Thats of course if you don't crash which no reflection on you just the circumstances is probable you would.
Depends how much money you have and how much you REALLY want a 2.0 Corsa.
But to a normal 18 year old I'd say it's a stupid move.
The guy speaks sence
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BabyBlade
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricky-Lee53
He's going pay loads for insurance anyway. Whats an extra 500?
Well if his insurance is 1k I'd say thats an extra 50% which is a shit load.
And thats going on the insurance premium being £1500 which sounds very low to me. Prices could have changed since I looked at them last though.
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Nic Barnes
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fuel economy is better with a 20xe than say a 1.2
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Andy GSi
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quote:
Originally posted by BabyBlade
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky-Lee53
He's going pay loads for insurance anyway. Whats an extra 500?
Well if his insurance is 1k I'd say thats an extra 50% which is a shit load.
And thats going on the insurance premium being £1500 which sounds very low to me. Prices could have changed since I looked at them last though.
Also the excess will be LOADS too. i had 900quid on mine, thank fcuk i never crashed. at 18 getting insured on 2.0 16v corsa for 1.5k only if he is on mum and dads insurance.
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Ricky-Lee53
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
fuel economy is better with a 20xe than say a 1.2
Seconded.
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