Cosmo
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what if you were at the scene of a crime, finger prints link you there, you have no excuse but it wasnt you, but still get fucked over for the crime...all down to being on the system!
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liamC
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i dont see a problem with this. as long as you don't commit crimes etc makes no odds
Exactly.
You fools, what if the system fcuks up one day and your details are mixed up with a convicted murderer thats escaped from prison, you get pulled over by the Police, they finger print you and your arrested on the spot?
Or you apply for credit or get a mortgage and your details get mixed up with someone thats been put away for fraud?
You'll be the ones moaning that your details were on the system in the first place without even commiting a crime.
Would you like some more straws to clutch?
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Cosmo
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Would you like some more straws to clutch?
not if you'll be taking prints from them 
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ssj_kakarot
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um i think people need to put the conspiracy theories away, no one would be convicted simply because there finger prints were at the scene of the crime, they may be questioned yes but you would be expect to be if you were near the crime n e way.
Not to mention every one of us is already on the "system" in some way or another, birth records, national insurance ect ect.
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--Dave--
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Originally posted by Cosmo
what if you were at the scene of a crime, finger prints link you there, you have no excuse but it wasnt you, but still get fucked over for the crime...all down to being on the system!
That doesn't necessarily link you to the crime though does it I'm sure the police have thought about this.
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Cosmo
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Id still rather keep as much of my details off the system anyway...I mean what if I do want to murder someone in the future...my prints on the system is going to be a bastard 
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Cosmo
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That doesn't necessarily link you to the crime though does it I'm sure the police have thought about this.
I was straw clutching!
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so if someone is shot on the street and i run over to them and my fingerprints are over them etc where I've tried to look after them. Does that mean I'm going to jail?
Cosmo
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ssj_kakarot
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yeah like i said you could not be found guilty for a criminal offense purely on the fact your finger prints were at the scene of the crime, proof in criminal cases has to be beyond reasonable doubt if the only evidence they had against you was finger prints there would still be doubt that you committed said crime ergo you couldn't be found guilty, you probably wouldn't even face prosecution.
[Edited on 22-11-2006 by ssj_kakarot]
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Ojc
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You missed the point totally Dave.
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Cosmo
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so if someone is shot on the street and i run over to them and my fingerprints are over them etc where I've tried to look after them. Does that mean I'm going to jail?
Cosmo
yes you fucking murderer
I wouldnt even look after someone in the street these days, if anything went wrong you'd only end up being fucked over by the police or the victims family.
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You missed the point totally Dave.
you chump. I was replying to Cosmo's posts.
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so if someone is shot on the street and i run over to them and my fingerprints are over them etc where I've tried to look after them. Does that mean I'm going to jail?
Cosmo
yes you fucking murderer
I wouldnt even look after someone in the street these days, if anything went wrong you'd only end up being fucked over by the police or the victims family.
Quite sad that the nation has come to this really. I know what you mean though. Best to just turn and look the other way. Pretend you didn't see anything
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Fee
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You've got to prove intent as well
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Cosmo
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Quite sad that the nation has come to this really. I know what you mean though. Best to just turn and look the other way. Pretend you didn't see anything
dont get me wrong in some cases Im sure Id still help. But you easily run the risk of getting caught up in something just for trying to be a nice person and helping, which fucks me off
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Ojc
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Ok David, no need for that personal attack.
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Ok David, no need for that personal attack.
sorry Ollie 
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Ojc
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Ok, thanks 
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Originally posted by Ojc
There will always be one that slips through the system, what about some turd that comes straight off the boat from Pakistan, purchases the ingrediants for explosives then runs onto the nearest tube train and blows himself up, how the hell will fingerprints help in that situation? Not at all.
Its just bollocks setup by foolish big wigs in parliament playing with their testicles whilst thinking up ways to piss off the general population.
Crap.
PMFSL
Your political views are hilarious. You make them so amusing to read, but get the point you mean to across at the same time.
I get slightly excited when I see a thread like this just to see what you've written!
I am now going to wipe the water i've spat all over my desk/keyboard/phone 
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The way this country is run you can guarantee there will be a major fuck up.
Computers are not 100% reliable, and people say every fingerprints different, but with all those extra fingerprints on the database, the way the finger print is taken etc Someday, somewhere a Priest will be arrested for shagging hookers under false recognition.
I for one will avoid being put on the system for as long as possible, I've never broken into anything or done anything seriously unlawful but our rights are being violated and we must make a stand
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Who knows, burn their hands? There will always be a round everything there always is....
Aye, good suggestion.
So should thieves and other people wish to get around technology they will have to do the following;
Burn their hands to avoid finger prints
Chop their ears off to avoid ear prints
remove their eyes to beat eye recognition
get rid of their own DNA. Possible cellotape their mouths shut to stop sulliver samples.
We should be rid of all thieves by this time next year.
or wear gloves a hat and a face mask, saves destroying yourself as you would be very easy to identify with burnt off hands and no ears.
ive always wondered why people who commit crimes dont buy the suits that the forensic teams wear when looking for clues, that would really confuse them!!!
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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drax
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I was already finger printed and Photo ID'd in america, So im pretty sure its in the global network by now.
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ed
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Today on the news they were reporting from a site where they were randomly pulling people over and checking up on them using this device. It's stuff like this that makes me want to claim some benefits and fuck off and take my degree and other qualifications I have to a country that appriciates it's citizens, not think everyone is guilty until proven innocent.
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Ojc
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Finally people are seeing it from my point of view rather than the view that if you have nothing to hide why are you worried.
Which IMO is a lazy persons view.
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ed
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If you ask people what they would do if they won the lottery, I would say a good 80% of the people would say that they would fuck off to a different country. I want to go to a place where telling somone they don't like thier religios dress is not a massive deal, where kids are actuall disciplined and where criminals are punnished in prison.
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