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MatthewR
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quote:
Originally posted by ClaireF
vts faster isnt it


welcome to 2006
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vts faster isnt it


welcome to 2006


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so the VTS only has 120bhp?? how does it explain getting a realy high insurance group (12 or 13 arent they???)
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@ this topic, FFS if you don't know by now your screwed in the head.
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so the VTS only has 120bhp?? how does it explain getting a realy high insurance group (12 or 13 arent they???)


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quote:
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so the VTS only has 120bhp?? how does it explain getting a realy high insurance group (12 or 13 arent they???)


Because insurance doesnt go on bhp, it covers cost of repair, desirability to theives, ease of theft, speed cars capable of etc etc
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saxos are really east to break into. my mates dad used a coat hanger and a peg and was in within seconds. he's now got a vtr with central locking and he cut the pins of because thats the easyest way to get into them.
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VTR is also SOHC VTS is DOHC the VTS and VTR stand for the injection system the cars use

[Edited on 02-11-2006 by Steve]
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Bla bla bla 130 bhp bla bla bla insurance group ... bla bla bla bla...

These engines make a range of powers. You can't pin point which one.

group 13 / 14 as they'll do 0-60 in similar to most similar grouped cars (7 ish secs) plus as said 'hot hatch' = gonna be driven like a knob, and stolen etc.

Mine made 141.5 bhp with just exhaust + filter, so can't see that mine was standard 120 bhp, otherwise filter + exhaust gave me 21 bhp

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E16SE Nova GSi engine engine is 1.6 8v and 100bhp, this engine was developed in 1986, why 10 years later have the French not developed a 1.6 8v to produce more? They are stupid.
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That first post is priceless
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Originally posted by corsaflip
Nar it was the later vts, I thought they did made them there rare though

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Citroen_Saxo_1_6i_VTS__Review_5368614


lol how the hell does that make that true? Just because the muppet believes he bought one with 130 bhp 'as it's a rare model' ... The funniest part of that post was the fact that he said he had 155 bhp from just a exhaust (which still has a cat) and filter. And that he was using a rolling road to measure his 0-60??
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Ojc they did do a 1.3 8v that was 100bhp back in the early 90s so pah
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Ojc they did do a 1.3 8v that was 100bhp back in the early 90s so pah


God damm it bitch, forgot about that
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
E16SE Nova GSi engine engine is 1.6 8v and 100bhp, this engine was developed in 1986, why 10 years later have the French not developed a 1.6 8v to produce more? They are stupid.


so how come 10 years later vauxhall were making 1.6 16v DOHC engines with only 5bhp more
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
E16SE Nova GSi engine engine is 1.6 8v and 100bhp, this engine was developed in 1986, why 10 years later have the French not developed a 1.6 8v to produce more? They are stupid.


so how come 10 years later vauxhall were making 1.6 16v DOHC engines with only 5bhp more


Steve your a cunt mate, if I ever see you again I'm gonna smash your teeth in. BTW, have you downloaded episode 5 of Lost? Looks like a good one, speak to you tonight mate.

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im downloading now

spk ltr

[Edited on 02-11-2006 by Steve]
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Originally posted by J-Me


That first post is priceless


wow, I'm famous, in your signature. There could be a difference to someone that has no-idea, like my Grandma (or me! :lol

Racing could be fast, stiffened suspension etc like SRi, Sport could have smaller engine but look good, SXi maybe?! That theory is completely wrong way around and I did know the VTS is a faster one, but this is the French we're talking about!
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Originally posted by corsaflip
Nar it was the later vts, I thought they did made them there rare though

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Citroen_Saxo_1_6i_VTS__Review_5368614


lol how the hell does that make that true? Just because the muppet believes he bought one with 130 bhp 'as it's a rare model' ... The funniest part of that post was the fact that he said he had 155 bhp from just a exhaust (which still has a cat) and filter. And that he was using a rolling road to measure his 0-60??


but the thing is they did make a later 130bhp model
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not officially they didnt

i still put the 130bhp ones down to manufacturer intolerances
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Originally posted by Paul_J
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Originally posted by corsaflip
Nar it was the later vts, I thought they did made them there rare though

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Citroen_Saxo_1_6i_VTS__Review_5368614


lol how the hell does that make that true? Just because the muppet believes he bought one with 130 bhp 'as it's a rare model' ... The funniest part of that post was the fact that he said he had 155 bhp from just a exhaust (which still has a cat) and filter. And that he was using a rolling road to measure his 0-60??


but the thing is they did make a later 130bhp model


no they didn't muppet. Infact later model Gti's make less power after remap due to their 3 plug ECU's! Check on PGAC / SSC etc - most later model gti's after cam's remap only making about 150-155 bhp, earlier ones make 155-160 bhp after remap (dependant on cams etc obviously).

End of the day, as steve said - 'In general' the cars just made different power. Don't believe any crap about a certain year, a certain 2 prongs or any other crap.

Mine made more than 120 bhp standard - but mines 1998. I know 2001 Gti's that have made 118 bhp on the rollers standard.

Cars just generall differ from model to model - theres no '130 bhp model'
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later ones do make less power, due to the air pump shite and all the rest!
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as far as im aware later ones year 2k non egr valve models are 130bhp

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