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Robin
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30th Oct 06 at 13:53   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmmmm. stone chips

Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
quote:
Originally posted by Robin
but the real question is, would you want to risk binning it into a gravel trap?


Gravel trap will only ruin a bumper (unless it flips) and i ahve the original front bumper still (used it for winters to save the airdam paint).


what about when you go in sideways, and you get gravel rash all up the side?
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Originally posted by VXR

Strip it No, your only sell the popular bits, and be left with a shell etc
Sell whole TBH you wont get nearly enough
Track - And if so, the above issues
Keep it for occasional shows (although im getting bored of the same stuff).... your just come the the same conclusion as this post again


jr
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
quote:
Originally posted by jr
yes but its taken daimo 2 years to get to this stage, buying a car will take him another 3



Come on james... you can't exactly tease people for taking their time with building a car or actually driving it..


Daimo B
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Robin, then its a case of spraying skirts again as they stick out and stones cant curve in the air back onto the car

The picture above doesn't concern me, it'll happen at some point. If it doesn't, your not pushing hard enough...

Madness, this post has actually helped my never ending cycle.
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if i was u id want to keep the outside the same as it looks great. and reading ur posts u really love the outside so leave that but strip the whole interior. however if it was me and i loved the outside i wudnt use it on track as it will get ruined by stone chips or if u accidently flipped it or whatever.
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
Madness, this post has actually helped my never ending cycle.

Closer to turning in to a track car then?
Carl
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Don't piss about stripping it to turn it into a track car, buy a bike and have a track bike, will be loads more fun, plus, corsa's arn't good track cars (comparable to similiar cars) and it will be loads of hassle undoing the hardwork you have already done.
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How much track driving have you done already?? Get involved going to a few events & try to get a few laps off anyone who's willing....then go test ride a fast bike, find out what you really want

As for stripping your car for track...I would ditch the bodykit & exhausts in favour of standard items. Or as said strip to sell & get a 205 gti .
Fad
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Break the fucker as

a) Corsa make shit track cars unless £££ is thrown at it
b) If tyhe cars mint it'll break your heart to bin it
c)Buy a pug 106 gti/raqllye and put fun back into driving will easily be quicker than the XE'd Corsa with less BHP.
d)Buy my loom before you break it.
Arnie
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I agree with Fad, break it for parts and get something like a 106/205 as a track car. I made just over £3.5k from breaking mine and you saw the state of it after the crash
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track it track it, track it, it doesnt have to be the faster car there, as long as it fun it doesnt matter, the exact reason the grey corsa sport has been built
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i think allot of people have missed the point on here

its daimos first car, its still special to him, needs to find a way of enjoying and using the car agian, i cant see daimo doing the show season again, as it just wont get used

a few simple mods (its doesnt have to be all lightweigh panels etc), and it will be a fun little car on track
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i would just strip the interior out and get it on the track. if your scared of damaging the bumpers, skirts etc then just pull them off before goin on the track and put the standard ones one.
at the end of the day though its your car and you should do what you want with it not what others think you should do
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quote:
Originally posted by Fad

a) Corsa make shit track cars unless £££ is thrown at it



me and jr r gonna prove u wrong i hope
jr
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sell it, move on from owning corsas all your life
Ryan_G1
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Keep it the way it is.
Ojc
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quote:
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sell it, move on from owning corsas all your life


Shut it shylock
Ian
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31st Oct 06 at 02:37   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Take out the false floor, sort the loom, top up the oil and go for a ragga.

It doesn't need to be competitive. Just give it some death on the day see where that gets you.

You might convince yourself to swap the bootlid, maybe some other stuff. I personally would use it first, mod it second.
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Think you would be gutted if you kept the exterior as it is and stripped sime interior then took it on track and spun into gravel and fucked all the kit and paint..

If you are going to go track route, don't have to be too extreme just get 2 buckets rid of some of the crap inside and sell bumper / skirts / boot etc for funds to get it track ready and out on other post 97 bumpers or that..

Thats what I would do anyway.
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Ok....

First things first...

I WOULD NOT do it again

If you ARE going to do it..... loose all the weight you can. A lighter car is easier on brakes/tyres and engines.
Get rid of any bodywork you care about. You will go off at some point. You will get stonechips. Your wheels will get wrecked!

Listen to what folk are saying about selling or swapping to another corsa if you REALLY want to use a corsa. You will save a lot of hassle/fuss by just starting from a bare shell/base model.

If i was to be doing a small track car again i'd go for a 205 with S16 engine. Dynamite.
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Not worried about stonechips, i've said i love the look, thats remaining. It was the rear end that was the issue.

JR hit the nail on the head here....

"its daimos first car, its still special to him, needs to find a way of enjoying and using the car agian, i cant see daimo doing the show season again, as it just wont get used"

As said, i'll come to some shows, but im never gonna go back to the whole, Doncaster/Billing/PVS/Trax/Max Power etc etc...

Don't want to change to another Corsa, if that were the case, i'd just sell up now and not be bothered. Someone elses corsa isn't D4 so I wouldnt care about it at all (mind you, thats a good thing for track days).

I don't mind damaging the car, becuase if it happens, I done it, not some boyracer whos bought my car and is killing it. I'd rather do that myself So wouldn't be so bothered if I done it.

Wheels would be changed at some point for lighter items, if i go that way... Boydwork CAN come off at any point if I decide as i have the other stuff hanging around.

If corsas are such crap track cars, how comes Adam_B attends loads of track days with a GSi kitted corsa? What about the BAT corsa (although a different league). He needs to contribute

Its not always about having the best car, its about making something out of the car that was never intended to do it. Its why i don't like Porsches. YEah they are probably the quickest car out the box, but the car does all the work for you, bit like Mercs... I like the idea of "polishing a turd" I'm also realising that a standard GTE still weighs more than the corsa, so in effect, it'll still be under a tonne..

Nova is based upon the same design, just lighter, and they are used regulary still, and i've seen Corsas on track, both race, rally, and oval.. So tehy can't all be bad.. But the guys who've stripped their cars....

Have you jsut stripped as much weight as possible, or have you done it right and taken out weight where theres too much (I.e XE will be front heavy, so you want to get rid of weight at the front, and not so much at the back or it'll be very un-balanced weight wise (hence the back end will be light, skittish and generally all over the shop)... I remember the feeling of the car when it had 15"s and was gutted inside. Back end was very "lairy"...

Some goog comments and opinions. It wont make my mind up, but im still interested what people would do in the same situation....

PS... Adam, would you never do it again becuase you've had so much hassle and problems, or because you don't enjoy driving the car? Bearing in mind this is just a standard XE.

[Edited on 31-10-2006 by VXR]
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back end handling is transformed with the arb, willay has it on his xe, and the change it made was amazing
jr
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adam b's is a perforect example of a car thats kitted (well gsi) and still get abused on track

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