Marc
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Would she have thought about doing this 4 or 5 years ago? Probably not. Fair enough the kid will never want for anything, her whole reason for doing it is so very wrong though.
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Anyway, if the news reports on the radio this morning are anything to go by, it won't get through the system in England.
She still has to get evaluated by social services, the same as any other adoptive parent.
Album/Film out soon at all?
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haha, BBC contradicting itself 
She'll get it through immagration no probs, normal people do this everyday so is only being blown up as its her and the press are having a field day.
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Jules S
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Cosmo,
I'm still not grasping your your opinion of 'better' lifestyle for the kid in question.
At best it will be an emotional headfuck for the poor kid. Granted his life isn't exactly rosy as it stands, but time and time again cultures and individuals have been mentally fcuked up by interference by the west.
Thats not to say about all the other orphans left behind wondering why they weren't deemed 'good enough' to be selected by madonna 
Anyways...each to their own and all that 
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moving a kid of that age to a different country wouldn't be that bad for them, if the kid were 7, it would ba a lot harder for him.
i still don't agree with the real reasoning behind it though.
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Being with what seems to be a good mother (judging by her other kids) who can provide the best education, healthcare, nutrition, etc.
vs.
Malawi
Humanitarian situation
Main article: 2005 Malawi food crisis
Life expectancy in Malawi is now as low as 36.5 years; five years lower than it was 50 years ago. This drop is due to the population's impoverishment, which is constituted by many factors, including:
* low income (the mean per capita income in Malawi is less than $1 per day)
* insufficient nutrition
* poor access to medical treatment
* insufficient school education
* spread of HIV/AIDS
* government economic restrictions
Health
Child mortality is 103/1,000. There are more than a million orphans, 700,000 of whom became orphans when their parents died of AIDS.
According to Malawi government estimates, 14.2% of the population are HIV-positive, and 90,000 deaths in 2003 were due to AIDS. Unofficial estimates based on private hospital entries give a HIV infection percentage of 30%.
Nutrition
Malawi's staple food is maize but like other countries in Southern Africa, Malawi has repeatedly been affected by famines since 2002, when food was scarce for almost one third of the population. In 2003, 30 percent of the population were affected.
According to a FAO report from June 2005, 4.22 million inhabitants of Malawi, ¼ of the population, would not have enough food in 2005 to survive. In the south of the country, the rate of the population affected will be between 55 and 76 per cent. In the end of November 2005, the first famine deaths were recorded.
These repeated famines are caused by different factors including:
* widespread monocultures
* poor distribution of fertilizers
* droughts
* widespread AIDS epidemic
* bilharzia
* malaria
* government corruption and restrictions on economic freedom
[Edited on 16-10-2006 by Cosmo]
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you might want to remove 'droughts' from the malawi list
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Madonna pisses me off full stop. Even before this adoption nonsense.
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Even a pic of him on the internet!
all look the same to me
why not adopt a british baby and give that a life away from a shit family in England?
Most british babies look like that nowadays anyways  she is a bit tapped tho, Its the in thing now with celebs.
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the woman is worth $600 million plus if she cared that much she could have helped the kids there a lot more than she did, its obviously for publicity which is wrong.
As for the kid having a better life, thats debatble yes he will have material posesions but at what cost, he will be handled most of his life by nannies and child minders once the media dont care any more and its not fashionable for madona to carry him around, or whilst shes on one of her endless tours or something crap like that.
And with that level of fame and wealth problems alaways exsist look at other famous peoples kids, michael jacksons, osboures, bob geldof ect ect all have deep seeded emotional problems, which no doubt this kid will get eventually.
Its unfair to adopt a child for publicity, children need real physical and emotion love from there parents to grow up and be "normal", this kid imo will get neither.
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She'll kit him out mate, New Nikee Air Max's every week, shit loads of hoodies, the worlds gonna be his bitch and in 10 years he'll shoe your head in
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
As for the kid having a better life, thats debatble yes he will have material posesions but at what cost, he will be handled most of his life by nannies and child minders once the media dont care any more and its not fashionable for madona to carry him around, or whilst shes on one of her endless tours or something crap like that.
And with that level of fame and wealth problems alaways exsist look at other famous peoples kids, michael jacksons, osboures, bob geldof ect ect all have deep seeded emotional problems, which no doubt this kid will get eventually.
Its unfair to adopt a child for publicity, children need real physical and emotion love from there parents to grow up and be "normal", this kid imo will get neither.
Not just material items. He can now get a better education, better health care, live in a more politically stable and safe society, etc, etc.
And how can you say it'll always be with nannies. Just because she is rich it doesnt mean she hasnt got a maternal bone in her body and would actually consider raising her children herself. She brought up her other kids as you can see by the endless intrusive photos you see from time to time.
And yes those celebrity kids you mentioned are fucked up...but what about the many many others who you dont hear about as they are just normal?!
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yeah endless intrustive photos hmmm you not see the irony in that?
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It's one kid cosmo.
If you ever feel the need go visit Africa. You will find 50+ kids outside every supermarket with birth defects begging for whatever their currency is for less than 1p
Did geldof adopt an African kid?
No he didn't...if Madonna requested that everyone in her fanclub donated a £1 to the cause it would have been better imo
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yeah endless intrustive photos hmmm you not see the irony in that?
Im sure the fact he will now be away from the 103 kids in a 1000 who die, aswell as all the other things I mentiined above, will outweight the intrusive photos!
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It's one kid cosmo.
If you ever feel the need go visit Africa. You will find 50+ kids outside every supermarket with birth defects begging for whatever their currency is for less than 1p
Did geldof adopt an African kid?
No he didn't...if Madonna requested that everyone in her fanclub donated a £1 to the cause it would have been better imo
dont get me wrong Im not saying she is doing it for the right reasons, but regardless this is one kid who will now be getting a better shot at life.
And Im sure she does other stuff for charity, and the publicity this will bring for malawi will help their economy. She prob could do more though.
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It's one kid cosmo.
And she will have picked him out like a child in a pet shop.
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It's one kid cosmo.
And she will have picked him out like a child in a pet shop.
I'm certain I couldn't have put it better than that quote
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agreed, Im certain she prob did pick him like a puppy in a pet shop.
Still doesnt take away from the benefits, even if it is only one kid.
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agreed, Im certain she prob did pick him like a puppy in a pet shop.
Still doesnt take away from the benefits, even if it is only one kid.
God damn my ability to get my point across on the internet 
The kid (in real terms) was pretty well off where he was.
If he (god forsake) had a birth defect he would have been left in the bush to stave to death and be eaten by the local wildlife.
Kind of makes you think does it not?
Hope so.
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agreed, Im certain she prob did pick him like a puppy in a pet shop.
Still doesnt take away from the benefits, even if it is only one kid.
God damn my ability to get my point across on the internet
The kid (in real terms) was pretty well off where he was.
If he (god forsake) had a birth defect he would have been left in the bush to stave to death and be eaten by the local wildlife.
Kind of makes you think does it not?
Hope so.
Yes, he was well off in the fact that he had no adnormalities and is currently still alive, I get that. Even that fact that only his mother has died and not both his parents is 'well off' over there with the amount of aids infected adults.
But in the grand scheme of things (ie compared to a child here) he was not very well off at all. The figures I posted before were from wikipedia and is not really that of somewhere I would call anyone well off.
And I do get what you mean that she could of found an EVEN more needy baby, but it doesnt take away the fact that this baby is still coming from a very poor background and this is a good thing for him.
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Well, she got her way.
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Well, she got her way.
And sure enough the nanny picked him up from the airport
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