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ed
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13th Oct 06 at 14:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well, perhaps the guy said GBH to me? I might phone him back to ask because I might have misheard.

What do you mean by broken abdus? I had about £200 worth of clothing ruined and take by the Police for forensics. I am going to claim compensation once I get the crime number from back home though.
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quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
quote:
Originally posted by ed
Yea, just got a call. I'm a happy boy. Hope he doesn't pleed not guilty or I'll have to go to court

It's not a pleasant experience. Barristers are twats.

Great, even better if you have been KO'd by a fucking bottle while pissed and they expect you to answer questions.
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a broken leg, a broken nose, stitches in the head/other body part etc..
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£200
ed where you wearing your gold shell suit again
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
quote:
Originally posted by ed
Yea, just got a call. I'm a happy boy. Hope he doesn't pleed not guilty or I'll have to go to court

It's not a pleasant experience. Barristers are twats.

Great, even better if you have been KO'd by a fucking bottle while pissed and they expect you to answer questions.


it's simple, he will try to confuse into making an error in your testimony and say something different from your statement.

just relate what happened.

no need to make up any stories. Just speak the truth
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quote:
Originally posted by abdus
a broken leg, a broken nose, stitches in the head/other body part etc..
My head had to be glued back together and all the glass had to be cleaned out which was fun. Then I wasn't allowed to even shower for a day because if I did the cut would re-open
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
£200
ed where you wearing your gold shell suit again
I used to only wear designer clothes Now I don't give a shit as £80 on a pair of jeans is just silly
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primarks where its at ed
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H&M I'm not that much of a pikey to go into Primark. I feel dirty when I go there to get fancy dress stuff
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cheers dude

H&M has gone down hill in the last year, they used to do so much that was different, now its just like topman. Just barry clothes. Plus the prices have also risen like £40 for a pair of H&M jeans
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If you do go to court (which hopefully you wont have to) the only bit of advice I would have is to stay cool. Its hard but the barrister will try to push and bully you into getting a reaction or making a mistake so you've just got to rise above it. They really are pathetic.
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ABH is more serious than GBH. ABH is cuts and breaks, GBH is bruises. With intent is when it gets serious, that means they picked something up, like a bottle, with the intention of doing damage!
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No GBH is more serious than ABH
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quote:
Originally posted by harry23
ABH is more serious than GBH. ABH is cuts and breaks, GBH is bruises. With intent is when it gets serious, that means they picked something up, like a bottle, with the intention of doing damage!


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fucking hell, some serious misinformation in here!
There are alsorts of levels, i'm not fully up on it only did A-level law, but enough to know most people in this thread haven't a clue.
there is Common assault & battery,
ABH,
GBH
GBH & Wounding
a different section of GBH is where intent is involve section 18 (that could be slightly wrong!)

Anyway if you have been cut then that would be GBH with wounding, as there is a break in the continuation of the skin (something like that) what they often do though is drop down a level so its easier to convict the defendant of the crime if you get what i mean. At the end of the day if he has hit you with a bottle its not like he is trying to help you across the road with it, only way he would get out of it is if it was a reaction to something you had done, ie you hit him and he had it in his hand and reacted, If this hasn't happened and he's premeditated the attack with a bottle it means Mens rea is present = he could/should get punished more than if it isn't present.
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Originally posted by ed
You can hear the glass going crunch. Makes me shudder every time I think about it Also, bleeds like a fucking bitch!


Sorry mate, but I told you a few times to stop eyeing up my mother.
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Carl, are you sure you didn't input any misinformation esp when defining GBH?
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quote:
Originally posted by abdus
Carl, are you sure you didn't input any misinformation esp when defining GBH?


no, i know i probably did. although i never tried to define GBH?!

you were an exception that actually made sense by the way, was more laughing at the first few replies that were plucked out of the sky.
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl
quote:
Originally posted by abdus
Carl, are you sure you didn't input any misinformation esp when defining GBH?


no, i know i probably did. although i never tried to define GBH?!

you were an exception that actually made sense by the way, was more laughing at the first few replies that were plucked out of the sky.






was joking

you did explain it well, but I couldn't understand this: 'as there is a break in the continuation of the skin'

The distinction between ABH and GBH given by some member in this page here made me chuckle
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What, members of Corsasport bullshiting? Never!
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quote:
Originally posted by abdus
quote:
Originally posted by Carl
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Originally posted by abdus
Carl, are you sure you didn't input any misinformation esp when defining GBH?


no, i know i probably did. although i never tried to define GBH?!

you were an exception that actually made sense by the way, was more laughing at the first few replies that were plucked out of the sky.






was joking

you did explain it well, but I couldn't understand this: 'as there is a break in the continuation of the skin'

The distinction between ABH and GBH given by some member in this page here made me chuckle


not sure where that came from, probably a different word than skin but i'm sure i recal something like that from a case to do with wounding, maybe involving someone eye or something?! god knows maybe i made it up in my head!
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doesn't really matter about the definitions in my experience coz the courts always play it down to a lesser charge. I got hit round the head with a brick 2 years ago. Guy was out side my house and knocked on the door, i went to open it but nobody was there so i stepped out the door. He must have been stood to one side with his back to the house coz i didn't even see him. went to a+e and had 4 staples to close the cut but the guy got charged with ABH. Should be GBH in my opinion.
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ABH is a visible injury that does not amount to either serious scarring or broken bones as this is GBH, as are injuries that are likely to casue long term problems.

Although for the purposes of recording a crime ( as a common assault, ABH, GBH etc) the criteria is often different for charging someone with that crime.

for example, if someone is punched and gets a bit of a blackeye, as it is visible, it will be recorded as an ABH and the person would be arrested for ABH but is likely to be charged with common assault

hope that sort of makes sense?
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If the person gets done for common assault for putting in hospital then I will be seriously fucked off. Especially if I claim for compensation and the cunt only has to pay me £15 a month for god knows how long
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he has been charged with ABH and shall be on trial for this charge. It's up to the prosecutor to prove beyond resonable doubt that it was ABH and for this, he will rely on your testimony and then you will be cross examined by defense lawyer.

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