Dean_W
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Registered: 13th Dec 05
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If you go back in a few days, i'm sure you'll be let in, and they won't even notice you.
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ed
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Registered: 10th Sep 03
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Bouncers do whatever the hell they like because they are twats. End of.
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SetH
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Registered: 15th Jul 01
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hmmm i worked the doors for 4 years, and a lot of my friends are still currently doing it, all decent blokes who just need the extra cash or enjoy the social aspect of it.
Looking at attitudes of the young lads on here towards doorstaff can see why half the shit happens.
End of the day there are there to protect the premises and its clientiele. would be a different story if some rugby lads started filling you in because you were gobby, then who do you go running to for help?
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Tommy
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Registered: 24th Aug 00
Location: Essex, Colchester
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Bouncers generally only get involved in shit if they need to, most are lazy gits.
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SetH
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Registered: 15th Jul 01
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I love how everyone on CS is an expert on the issue.
I might link this thread to www.workingthedoors.co.uk and see what they all think. guarantee you it would be a 15 pager thread 
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Jake
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Registered: 24th Jan 05
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what would you expect to gain from taking the situation further? You got booted out of the club in an orderly manner. Are you only allowed out once a year?
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James
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Registered: 1st Jun 02
Location: Surrey
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I got booted out on new years eve at 11pm once because my mates were being cunts and I happened to be stood with them.
I argued it, my mates even explained to them I wasnt involved. They never let me back in, happy new year  
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ChazSXi
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Registered: 26th Jan 03
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it was the *flash SIA badge* ' we can chuck u out if we dont like the way u stand...'
nice attitude eh!
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Lynny
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Registered: 3rd Jan 03
Location: oop north! Where people talk properly
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1) management will always back up their staff/bouncers
2) managerment can refuse to have anyone they like on the premises, dont need to give a reason....so be thankful you got one
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Lynny
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Registered: 3rd Jan 03
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quote:
Originally posted by ChazSXi
it was the *flash SIA badge* ' we can chuck u out if we dont like the way u stand...'
nice attitude eh!
i cant wait to get my SIA badge 
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fat_rew
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Registered: 10th Jan 06
Location: SHEFFIELD
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Im a doorman, been working doors for 4years now, and Im not a twat, but yes some of the guys I work with are headcases.
Doorman have the right to refuse entry or eject anyone if they 'suspect' you of anything wrong. If you remain on the property you are there against the licencees wishes and therefore trespasing (thats how police see it).
Licenced doormen have the right to use 'minimal force neccessary' to remove you from the premises. They dont however, have the right to put the boot in or 'hit' anyone.
If you feel youve been mistreated you can make a complaint to the police in which case they may ask to see the CCTV, however, TBH not much comes of stuff like this because usually if doormen are gonna act heavyhanded theyl do it off CCTV areas.
The best thing you can do is get the doormans SIA licence number (somehow) and report him to the SIA (Security Industry Authority) which is the government run licencing authority. He may have his licence removed temporarily.
Sorry dude. In defence of doormen tho, we have to deal with the pissed up punters every weekend, most which arent as diplomatic as yourself, and whilst Im always as sound as possible to customers, Ive been twatted too many times to worry if Im not. Thats just the way it is.
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ChazSXi
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Registered: 26th Jan 03
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i understand the situ...i was just possed off that they coultn even prove that someone else had used my ID, nor removed it off the other persons...so now im worried someone has somehow forged my ID!!
what wuld you do in the situ? cos im sure they were just being gits!
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fat_rew
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Registered: 10th Jan 06
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quote:
Originally posted by fat_rew
The best thing you can do is get the doormans SIA licence number (somehow) and report him to the SIA (Security Industry Authority) which is the government run licencing authority. He may have his licence removed temporarily.
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JadeM
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Registered: 9th Feb 06
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I had that once, I went to the cloak room at 2am to get my jacket because the cunts had the back doors open to cool the place down, right next to where me & mates were standing. Got my jacket which was actually a hoody top & started going back to where the mates were standing...then 2 bouncers jump on me & pull me to the ground, rag doll me through the double doors & start accusing me of selling drugs
Now im about one of the most sober in the place (made for a change - wasnt feeling too good so wasnt going for it) I argued my case said look who saw me selling any gear, search me etc...they wernt interested. I asked if I could go get the gf to leave with her - no your going NOW!!! So there I was thrown out into the street 2hrs before the club closed no phone to call anyone & no decent explanation to why Im now outside!
I think most are nothing more than jealous plebheads!!!!
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Lynny
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Registered: 3rd Jan 03
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way you need to look at it chaz, you'll be surprised hwo much bother bouncers/pub managerment get EVERY night.....gets to the point when youve had neough, cant be bothered with being all nice, diplomatic and understanding, so just have to remove the problem. If they suspect someone of using your ID, or whatever, theyre not goina come over and have a friendly chat about it, a fight could be kicking off else where, so they'll just kick you out, problem solved. its not a case of being gits, just trying to make a difficult job easier
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ChazSXi
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Registered: 26th Jan 03
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i asked for their names...but they wouldnt give them out!
i mean if u were the doormen last nite....would u have not looked at my ID and his!? or jst let him go and chuck me out on the street?!
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ChazSXi
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Registered: 26th Jan 03
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I undertsnad the job..i actualy do security work sometimes at racecourses...but jesus no proof....nothing...management dont have a hard job so why could then not explain the situ and show me proof?
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Lynny
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Registered: 3rd Jan 03
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quote:
Originally posted by ChazSXi
I undertsnad the job..i actualy do security work sometimes at racecourses...but jesus no proof....nothing...management dont have a hard job so why could then not explain the situ and show me proof?
PMSL
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Jodi_the_g
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Registered: 7th Aug 01
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Because it pretentious attitudes like refusing to leave and answering back no matter how polite like you are demonstrating now that did not help your case.
They can eject you or refuse entry without reason, maybe because you have brown shoes on. Just live with it and accept it
We all have problems just be grateful yours is so trivial so stop moaning and go to Joanna’s in Gosport.
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MarkM
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Registered: 11th Apr 01
Location: Liverpool
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To be honest with you...you dont have a case...
Stop spouting bollocks regarding the HRA as clearly you dont know what your talking about...
Get a grip and deal with the fact you was ejected...
Shit happens
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TNM
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Registered: 5th Apr 04
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look at it this way. The door staff can refuse entry to who ever they want. I get let into different bars in nottingham when im wearing timberland boots and stuff when its shoes only because the door staff know me and know im not going to cause any trouble.
If you show any attitude then they know you are a problem.
Give up and move on.
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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its a private club they can ask you to leave no reasons whatsoever if they wish
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Robin
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Registered: 7th Jan 04
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If you make a fuss, and dont get anywhere, they'll single you out EVERY time you go back there.
it happens to everyone, I got chucked out of a bar the other week because my mate was "smoking drugs", when he clearly wasnt
just forget about it, its not worth bothering with.
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Demo
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Registered: 27th Sep 01
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marriott bake me a cake 
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--Dave--
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Registered: 17th Feb 04
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quote:
Originally posted by Demo
cant help you mate but IMO 99% of bouncers are wankers on power trips.
when i was in town wednesday night i was informed of "challenge 25" and asked for id. now im almost 25 and look at least my age so havent carried anything since i was about 18.
then they give us the shpeal of "i tell you waht guys im gonna let you in tonight but drop the attitude". i was like "what attitude" and they started bitching.
fucking tossers
and to top it all off we were speaking to some girls in there who we know and they are only 17
[Edited on 08-09-2006 by Demo]
this pissed me off 
Few weeks ago me and some mates tried to get into a club but a few of us didn't have IDs. Never really need to carry them round locally so didn't think to bring them. Anyway we went back and got them and got in, got chatting to some girls and they were all 17/18.
One rule for blokes, one rule for them. Girls hardly ever get ID'd.
And people wonder why there are so many teenage pregnancies these days.
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