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Tommy
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25th Aug 06 at 12:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by LoudandLow
quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
off duty armed police officer shoots someone can he just say he was practicing?








Yes i laughed when he wrote it as well
Jambo
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25th Aug 06 at 12:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That didnt really sum it up, basically the bottom line IMO he has more right to do 160mph off duty or on than you or i.

Agree with me or not its not as black and white as people are trying to make out

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Jambo]
Tommy
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25th Aug 06 at 12:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If u think he has more right explain why ?
Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by LoudandLow
quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
off duty armed police officer shoots someone can he just say he was practicing?








Yes i laughed when i wrote it as well






look back i made this comparison a few days ago therefore smb
Dean_W
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quote:
Originally posted by Edd
smb


Tommy
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Therefore i agree calm down.
Tommy
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Means suck my balls, very last year.
Edd
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posted on 24-08-2006 at 11:19
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
a comparison


armed copper shoots someone when off duty = excuse, i was just keeping my skills up to date


laughable




means suck my balls dean
Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by LoudandLow
Means suck my balls, very last year.



yes like your dress sense
Jambo
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quote:
Originally posted by LoudandLow
If u think he has more right explain why ?


because he has the training meaning he would be able to handle such a manoveure
and also he was using it for police related work. To benefit the public and his police force.

Id say thats reasons enough.
Dom
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25th Aug 06 at 12:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No offence, but what he exactly testing at 159mph on a STRAIGHT bit of road? certainly wasn't handling of the car, as going round a track would be better...so like steve said, its just the fact that he wanted to boot his car and see how fast it went....couldnt have been for anything more or anything less.

As for him being better advanced, well marginally yes - but any tom dick and harry can take an advanced driving (skid pan training etc) test that is equivalent to what the police take. And like i said in a previous post, it isn't that hard (from what i've been told).

Eitherway, he is a police officer who enforces the law and he clearly broke it when not in a emergency - they cant have one set of laws for us and a completely different set for them, which they can break when ever they feel pleased to do so and get away with it!

Personally he should have spent some time in jail for it - but hopefully this case can be used for future reference when the rest of the prats in the police force fancy doing some straight line speed "Training"
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quote:
Originally posted by Edd
posted on 24-08-2006 at 11:19
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
a comparison


armed copper shoots someone when off duty = excuse, i was just keeping my skills up to date


laughable




means suck my balls dean




You suck mine
Tommy
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25th Aug 06 at 12:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

He wasnt training he was just driving. Its hardly called training if ure own ure own and trying to go as fast as u can. All the manoveure was, was to see how fast he could go. Its also very rare that police chases get up to those speeds n e way they just get the bellyfloppers out.
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quote:
Originally posted by LoudandLow
He wasnt training he was just driving. Its hardly called training if ure own ure own and trying to go as fast as u can. All the manoveure was, was to see how fast he could go. Its also very rare that police chases get up to those speeds n e way they just get the bellyfloppers out.


I agree here.

A police chase wouldn't get up to these speeds. As said, a bellypopper would be called. The whole reason is it's less likely for someone to be killed. If the speeds got up that high and there was no bellypopper, the chase would be called off anyway.

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Dean_W]
Dom
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25th Aug 06 at 12:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
quote:
Originally posted by LoudandLow
If u think he has more right explain why ?


because he has the training meaning he would be able to handle such a manoveure



So your saying that because he has had an advanced driving training (which anyone can do), he is better than us and should be allowed to do 160?

If thats the cash, then Jenson Button (anyone else holding racing licences) in his sports car should be allowed to do 200mph on the motorway?, as he has a lot LOT more training than that petty advanced police office at doing those speeds! hmmmmm
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
[If thats the cash, then Jenson Button (anyone else holding racing licences) in his sports car should be allowed to do 200mph on the motorway?, as he has a lot LOT more training than that petty advanced police office at doing those speeds! hmmmmm


I don't know if anyone recalls, but a WRC driver got done for speeding on a road in a rally car.

Now, if this was me, i would have said the WRC driver has got better skills than some chump in an cop car.

One rule for one and one for another.
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25th Aug 06 at 12:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i think the main concern here should be the fact he got clocked at 91mph in a 30. tbh yes 159mph is pushing it, but a least that was a motorway.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
That didnt really sum it up, basically the bottom line IMO he has more right to do 160mph off duty or on than you or i.

Agree with me or not its not as black and white as people are trying to make out

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Jambo]


i posted this yesterday and got flamed
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I can see both sides of the story, he is more than capable of driving at them speeds than most due to his training but I believe he shouldn't of been doing it on a public highway.

Yes he needs to practice but I'm sure the army do to and they don't run about firing their weapons around town They have certain areas that are away from the public to practice and I'm sure the police have dis-used airstrips etc to practice on.
Dom
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Dean - exactly! People are blowing sunshine up the traffic cops backsides saying how good they are, when infact that are a lot more people in the country who have had training more advanced to what the police are given!

A like said, the choppers would be called out if it was a speed chase of that sorts of speed.

AuroraSport - didn't realise he got done for 91 in a 30 zone!! If anyone can prove me otherwise that this was training driving that fast in a built up area, then please enlighten us.....
Tommy
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I dont think he has more of a right, if hes not at work then he has the same rights as everyone else. But thats just my view and the courts.
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quote:
Originally posted by lynny_sxi
quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
That didnt really sum it up, basically the bottom line IMO he has more right to do 160mph off duty or on than you or i.

Agree with me or not its not as black and white as people are trying to make out

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Jambo]


i posted this yesterday and got flamed


No he doesn't. When he is off duty, he does not have the right to drive that fast.
He only does when he is on duty, has lights on and an emergency to attend. I could understand if he was out and then saw a car that was wanted by the police or something, other than that, i think it's ludicrous he wasn't jailed. could have killed somebody for no reason other than he was 'testing' his car.

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25th Aug 06 at 12:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Dom
AuroraSport - didn't realise he got done for 91 in a 30 zone!! If anyone can prove me otherwise that this was training driving that fast in a built up area, then please enlighten us.....


well i suppose you can never predict when and where a chase is going to happen be it motorway or built up area.
Tommy
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25th Aug 06 at 12:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Least this has been an intresting post.
Jambo
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25th Aug 06 at 12:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Id like to see Meat pie SRi's input TBH


And At all of you who clearly know NOTHING about police driver training

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