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Edd
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you've just described vibrio
Tom
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Fatsest ever speed done for driving is 157 in an m3 in this country iirc
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No offence, but i know a few people who've done the advance police driving and it isn't that hard to be honest. It's all about concentration and being able to provide information on what you see and do

The copper should go down for it, there is no reason for him to be traveling those speeds, none what so ever. The whole training thing is bollocks, he was just pissing about on a quiet stretch of road!
And being a man of the law, who enforce these speeds!, he should have known better than to do 159mph!

But i couldn't agree more with using empty runways and tracks to do training, especially with the money they get from doing poor sods at 32mph in a 30 zone!

I have no problems with police doing there jobs, but it is very split in terms of one set of laws for the public and a completly different set for them - which makes them believe they are invincible and can do what they like.

Also, i thought for a copper to be speeding the blue lights have to be on?
Jason Iles
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
No offence, but i know a few people who've done the advance police driving and it isn't that hard to be honest. It's all about concentration and being able to provide information on what you see and do

The copper should go down for it, there is no reason for him to be traveling those speeds, none what so ever. The whole training thing is bollocks, he was just pissing about on a quiet stretch of road!
And being a man of the law, who enforce these speeds!, he should have known better than to do 159mph!

But i couldn't agree more with using empty runways and tracks to do training, especially with the money they get from doing poor sods at 32mph in a 30 zone!

I have no problems with police doing there jobs, but it is very split in terms of one set of laws for the public and a completly different set for them - which makes them believe they are invincible and can do what they like.

Also, i thought for a copper to be speeding the blue lights have to be on?


Well Said Dom

I believe the lights only have to be on giving chase or in a built up area
ClaireF
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24th Aug 06 at 17:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lets get it right, cops get away with everything
Dan B
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Those two bikers in Scotland a few years back (from memory) got 28 days in jail and a two-year ban for doing 148mph. Round about the same amount, punishment should be similar, and he should automatically lose his job AND pension.

{edit} Correction, I was wrong, it was 157mph, but same end-result (link)

Yes, I know it's a "what if...", but if this guy had hit someone while doing 91mph in a 30mph area, I can guarantee that the people who are now saying "well, he's trained to do that speed, so I can understand the defence" wouldn't be saying that...

Chuck him in jail, sack him, remove his pension, end of story......you can't do more than twice the speed limit, and hope to get away with it.

[Edited on 24-08-2006 by Dan B]
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24th Aug 06 at 17:59   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

'I think' If he's expected to do those kinds of speeds chasing down criminals then he should be allowed to pace his new patrol car to a certain extent.
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24th Aug 06 at 18:15   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its not against the law to break the speed limit on a race circuit, it is against the law to break the limit on a public road, simple, stupid and desperate attempt at an anallergy (sp) IMO.

Not to mention racing on a circuit is under controlled conditions with safety and not joe public on there either.

I dont see large traps on the side of the motorways incase you spin off at 155mph do i
Ian
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Originally posted by Alex
they dont actually have a test track or anywhere private to get used to a new vehicle, top speeds etc.
Top speed I personally would read the book that came with it.

This was not an exercising in learning how it handled? Whats he going to do if its floaty at 150? Phone the dealer up for a part-ex price?
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24th Aug 06 at 18:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes there is nothing to learn at 150mph, keep your foot on the gas and keep the steering straight, not much new there then
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Also, the Schumacher comment is quite correct. Anyone in a skilled profession needs to update those skills. He's right in what he says. I've just no idea how driving in a straight line actually augments your skills at all.

Its not a skills thing.

Its not a car thing.

There is NO reason to do this and furthermore, the public shouldn't have sympathy having had their own freedom revoked and their own capability and judgement questioned with every new "safety" measure.

Speed kills - unless its training?

I'm going out after to learn my cars 150mph capability. I'll be a boss jock on the school run, even better when I've handbraked around Tesco to enable me to park outside work.

I wouldn't be even bothered if I didn't get home later every time I don't do 100mph on a quiet well lit motorway at 5am.
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
yes there is nothing to learn at 150mph, keep your foot on the gas and keep the steering straight, not much new there then
And the end of the lesson is death. Any teacher will tell you that leaves little room for student reflection.

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