andy1868
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i had a brief go in a mates 1.4 16V Sri, it felt fast (because i had been driving a 1.0 12V for 9 months) but nothing compared to the 1.6 i bought afew weeks after, IMO
however, i do realise these were both standard, but the 1.6 seemed to, as robmarriott has said, pull alot better 
ps rob, is there anything you don't know?
[Edited on 16-08-2006 by andy1868]
[Edited on 16-08-2006 by andy1868]
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Fad
I had a 1.4 16v with
264 cams
headwork
full exhaust
decat
cossie filter
dont do it biggest mistake of my life it was a pig to drive broke down loads and just wasa general waste of money as perforamnce wasnt drastically improoved
Proberly because you had a standard inlet.
[Edited on 16-08-2006 by Monster]
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Robin
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andy  i'm only clued up about what i've played with  not got any idea about the bigger engines
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Fad
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by Fad
I had a 1.4 16v with
264 cams
headwork
full exhaust
decat
cossie filter
dont do it biggest mistake of my life it was a pig to drive broke down loads and just wasa general waste of money as perforamnce wasnt drastically improoved
Proberly because you had a standard inlet.
[Edited on 16-08-2006 by Monster]
Wasnt many inlets on the market at the time when I did this, and you wont benefit fully from an inlet such as a mantzel or bean can unless yo have a raised rev limit so is pretty pointless unless the car is also chipped or running management.
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Robin
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and then you are silly to leave a 1.4 in.
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Scotty C
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So ur not gonna see 'that' much gain with a inlet on a standard engine?
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Jake
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What have you done to your engine Teddy?
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Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
What have you done to your engine Teddy?
Few odds and sods since last time. Its definatly better, but i want to get it on the rolling road before i mention anything really.
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Daimo B
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All this "standard inlet" stuff...
I thought this until I read up on a company that tuned an X16xE to about 190bhp using the standard inlet manifold.........
I cannot confirm the truthfullness on this though.
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Fad
dont do it biggest mistake of my life it was a pig to drive broke down loads and just wasa general waste of money as oerforamnce wasnt drastically improoved
I told you before, its your driving mate
Your dead right though......
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JM_16v
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 ill have to see what happens then
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
I know of a 170bhp (ATW!!) 1.4 16v, but that running throttle bodies.
1.4 16v engines were class leaders in rallying in the corsa.
They are great engines, its jsut for road use, the 1.6 will always be the better engine. The 1.4 seriously lacks torque, and that will carry on through tuning, it'll never be as good as the 1.6.
To be a little different (iff thats your thing), go with the 1.4, if you want a bit more, go with the 1.6..
Both will cost just as much as each other to tune.
i know of a black 1.2 8v SXi, it has performance retarding mats too
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
so sell and get a standard gsi?
someone told me last night that standard gsi's and 1.6's wernt worth getting as they wernt much better then a 1.4 16v 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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JM_16v
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insurance gav im younger than u and wouldnt insure anything else
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gavin18787
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im sure my insurance isnt much different to yours as im only a year older
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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andy1868
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how old are you JM_16v? i'm 18 and insure a 1.6 sport for £1100 third party. but i have a years named driving experience and pass plus, but if you've got those too Quinn Direct might be worth a shot!
[Edited on 16-08-2006 by andy1868]
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by VXR
I know of a 170bhp (ATW!!) 1.4 16v, but that running throttle bodies.
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170 at the wheels? so about 210 bhp at the fly. I know it can be done as theres a lad in newcastle with a nova with a 1.4 on tb's but that struggling to hit 170+ with a massive spec.
sure its not 170 at the fly?
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Steve
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dont worry daimo heard it off a relative, it will be true
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jr
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im sure keith pipers 1.4 was 176bhp at the fly if thats the one your talking about daimo
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JM_16v
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well next month when im looking for my car ill be:
19
1NCB
one pending criminal conviction dont ask
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JM_16v
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also paying 1.8k atm everything declared third party. so should find cheaper insurance was thinking
gsi with wheels and lowered
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
170 at the wheels? so about 210 bhp at the fly. I know it can be done as theres a lad in newcastle with a nova with a 1.4 on tb's but that struggling to hit 170+ with a massive spec.
sure its not 170 at the fly?
Nope, 170 at the wheels matey. Was owned by a friend of Don Fulford, also a friend of that Yellow Euro Nova that came to billing, 2.0 on Carbs.... The whole group are spotless no expense spared fanatics.. I said the same, "are you sure its not our lingo barrier, 170bhp At the wheels? You sure that not at the fly?"
"No, it ran about 168bhp @ the wheels, we never bothered calculating the fly power as its the power at the wheels thats usable that interests me."
Saw it at a Belgium show, mental spec on the engine...
Yellow nova is in here, good old first nokia camera phone
http://public.fotki.com/DaimoB/cruises_and_shows_2003/opelvauxhall_show/
[Edited on 17-08-2006 by VXR]
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jr
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aplogies, i thought you were thinking of keith piper
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Dave A
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im still sceptical about 170bhp at the wheels from a 1.4
the lad in newcastle has done almost everything possible to his 1.4 on tb's, 300 degree cams, steel bottom end, c16xe head with headwork, 9200 rpm rev limit..... makes 170ish (cant remember exact figure) at the fly.
where does that 1.4 get another 40+ bhp from
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
I said the same, "are you sure its not our lingo barrier, 170bhp At the wheels? You sure that not at the fly?"
"No, it ran about 168bhp @ the wheels, we never bothered calculating the fly power as its the power at the wheels thats usable that interests me."
so you took what he said as 100% truth then
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