3CorsaMeal
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its a tough decision as to whether i help save this dog 
will we really make any difference you think?
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Kerry
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who knows but i certainly dont think it deserves to die
one could argue if it wasnt for the dog the handler would be dead
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Ry_B
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Originally posted by Kerry
the people who want to keep the dog live in the middle of nowhere
Holidays? Visitors? What if the dog got loose? What if they moved house?
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Originally posted by Kerry
the only children it will be in contact with is thier own which the dog knows
As above, you can't say that for sure.
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Originally posted by Kerry
doubt they would sue the police after it hurts one of thier children and not only that the children have been looking after the dog since the handler has had it and nothings happened
As above, what about other children? Even adults? If you think people wouldn't sue you're not living in England these days TBH 
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Originally posted by Kerry
any dog is capable of biting someone regardless of whether its been trained as a police dog
Yea, but this dog has been trained to kill/seriously hurt people, has it not? Makes it 100 times more likely to seriously injure someone.
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Originally posted by Kerry
and as for it being a tool, ex police cars are sold off not crushed and ex police themselves retire happily not executed
Ex police cars can't (not anymore than any other cars) kill people.
Sorry Kerry, but you're fighting a lost cause 
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Kerry
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Originally posted by SetH
ffs use your head people.
says the man whos excited kus he bought a gun 
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3CorsaMeal
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i never knew they did kill em 
i know people with ex-police dogs, but when i think about it they all sniffer dogs
what happens to dancing bears when they retire?
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3CorsaMeal
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by SetH
ffs use your head people.
says the man whos excited kus he bought a gun
toy gun 
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Kerry
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quote:
Originally posted by Ry_B
Yea, but this dog has been trained to kill/seriously hurt people, has it not? Makes it 100 times more likely to seriously injure someone.
police dogs are not trained to kill
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Originally posted by Ry_B Ex police cars can't (not anymore than any other cars) kill people.
cars do kill ryan
police cars tend to be more slightly modified than normal cars therefore more likely to kill
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Originally posted by Ry_B
Sorry Kerry, but you're fighting a lost cause
your parents have been since the day you were born
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Brett
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See this thread went nowhere
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Kerry
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
i never knew they did kill em
i know people with ex-police dogs, but when i think about it they all sniffer dogs
if you actually read the links most police dogs either stay with thier handler or be rehomed. they are only ever destroyed humanely as recommened by a vet due to age or injuries
the only time a dog is detroyed is if it bites someone which is quite rare and lets face it this happens all the time regardless of whether its ex police or not
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Kerry
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
See this thread went nowhere
maybe i didnt include enough gay innuendos and personal abuse or banter
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Ry_B
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
police dogs are not trained to kill
I like the way you ignored the seriously injure part
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Originally posted by Kerry
cars do kill ryan
police cars tend to be more slightly modified than normal cars therefore more likely to kill
I know cars kill, hence why I said not any more than any other cars....
And just because they're slightly modified doesn't mean they're more likely to kill atall. THey might even be safer depending on what the mods were, eg bigger brakes more stopping power? And just because they are modified doesn't mean in the grand scheme of things that they are fast, think of other cars that are made fast, eg hot hatches, they're more likely to kill TBH.
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Originally posted by Kerry
your parents have been since the day you were born
No.
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Dean_W
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It's a nice way to re-pay the dog don't you think....
Put him down
Seems wrong IMO.
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Kerry
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i didnt ignore the seriously injured part i pointed out the fact you stated they are trained to kill which is incorrect and like i said any dog can injure i should know that ive been hurt twice by my own dog and have scars to prove it
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3CorsaMeal
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but the police have branded him dangerous and now the public thinks a petition will overcome that.
just seems to me that the police are there to make those kinda judgements/decisions for the publics safety.
can't they meet halfway and get it stuffed? 
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Kerry
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where did you read he was branded dangerous?
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Eck
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
It's a nice way to re-pay the dog don't you think....
Put him down
Seems wrong IMO.
I think thats what the people with compassion see. The people who think it should be put down probably don't have a dog which has been a faithful companion for years 
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Ry_B
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
i didnt ignore the seriously injured part i pointed out the fact you stated they are trained to kill which is incorrect and like i said any dog can injure i should know that ive been hurt twice by my own dog and have scars to prove it
Your own dog!?
Your own dog is a pet, correct?
They want to keep it as a pet and yet it has police training, meaning they are more likely to hurt etc.
ENough said TBH, shame for the dog but it's in the best interests of the public.
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Liam
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I fail to see how a Police dog has been trained to kill someone they are trained to stop attackers, not kill them
But if they decided to put it down, then how can they be stopped??
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Ry_B
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It's an unnecessary risk that DOESN'T have to be taken. Yes, it's a shame for the dog and people that care for it, obviously, but it would be a bigger shame if it killed a member of the public TBH.
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Eck
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Originally posted by LiamD
I fail to see how a Police dog has been trained to kill someone they are trained to stop attackers, not kill them
But if they decided to put it down, then how can they be stopped??
Exactly, a police dog is a highly trained animal, far less likely to hurt someone than an un-trained domestic dog imo.
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3CorsaMeal
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Originally posted by Kerry
where did you read he was branded dangerous?
on one of your links, wales one i think
could be media wording tho
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Eck
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quote:
Originally posted by Ry_B
It's an unnecessary risk that DOESN'T have to be taken. Yes, it's a shame for the dog and people that care for it, obviously, but it would be a bigger shame if it killed a member of the public TBH.
Ry, I don't see where you're getting this "kill" from mate, they are trained to subdue suspects, not kill. If anything there's probably been more attacks from rottweilers (sp) etc than trained ones.
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Ry_B
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I read it somewhere in this thread I'm sure
EDIT yea I did
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
they have been trained to kill, therefore unsuitable for rehabilitation, therefore they are destroyed
[Edited on 31-07-2006 by Ry_B]
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Kerry
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ryan you dont even know the facts your talking out your arse as per usual
enough said??
by who exactely??
you
go and spam someone elses thread please i dont want your invalid comments in mine
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Ry_B
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Yes by me. My points are all valid, apart from perhaps the killing one.
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