meemawuk
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what is the person actually being fined for. what EXACTLY is the charge?
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Lynny
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Originally posted by John
I am not saying you're lying lynny btw, i'll just point that out 1st.
But this sounds rubbish.
There is not a chance that would stand up in court.
Following that logic I could buy a crate of tennents from asda, get pissed, drive into a lampost and get arrested, then say its not my fault because asda sold me it.
yes this is exactly what we're saying! pub manager has been in meetings all day with police and area managers, its a joke!
just as if say a 40 year old man comes to the bar and orders 2 pints of lager, then goes and sits somewhere else in the pub not in view of the bar and gives the other pint to someone under 18, the person serving is still liable for that person drinkign underage, its a total fucking joke! thats why as supervisor i rarely serve etc, spend most my time just patrolling the pub looking for underage drinkers
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John
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Originally posted by abdus
no...
you were not intoxicated at time of buying
Lynny hasn't stated if he was.
Unless he came into the pub intoxicated he was at some point served alchol when he was sober.
Was it ok to serve him the pints when he was sober but not ok when he was over the limit?
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Lynny
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quote:
Originally posted by meemawuk
what is the person actually being fined for. what EXACTLY is the charge?
i dont know, we wont find out the full story until tomorrow when the manager is in
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abdus
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quote:
Originally posted by meemawuk
what is the person actually being fined for. what EXACTLY is the charge?
maybe:
serving alcohol to an intoxicated person
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John
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Thats nothing to do with the drink driving then though.
That's concerning well before the drink driving happened.
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Nath
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Was he intoxicated when he drove to the Metro?
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Lynny
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i seem to spend my life arguing with twats in work about the licencing laws.....cant wait for my exam soon 
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Lynny
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Originally posted by Nath
Was he intoxicated when he drove to the Metro?
unsure, we're hoping the police can shed some light on this
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abdus
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Originally posted by lynny_sxi
i seem to spend my life arguing with twats in work about the licencing laws.....cant wait for my exam soon
which exams?
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Lynny
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quote:
Originally posted by abdus
quote:
Originally posted by lynny_sxi
i seem to spend my life arguing with twats in work about the licencing laws.....cant wait for my exam soon
which exams?
i have my cash control, and KST stages 1 and 2 coming soon. if i get through those which i will  ill be moving up to shift leader, which means i can sit my CIA (ooooh yeaah! ) and then apply for my own liquor licence (which means i have to go to court etc! but got a manager taking me through it all as my witness etc and the company pays for it)
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Lynny
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manager thats helping me through got her licence at 19 too and has said its a REALLY helpful thing to do. another of my mates at work is going through his at same time as me
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Jules S
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I can't for one single second see how a barman/woman can in any way be resposible for the actions of a drinker once they have left the premises 
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Jake
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If you open a bar give me a job, lynny. Cheers.
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Lynny
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Originally posted by Jules S
I can't for one single second see how a barman/woman can in any way be resposible for the actions of a drinker once they have left the premises
unfortunantly you are 
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Lynny
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Originally posted by jake
If you open a bar give me a job, lynny. Cheers.
lol no way wlll i be able to do that. just means i become a pub manager at wetherpsoons, takes a few years to work up the grades before you can have your own pub. lookin at being about 23-24ish before thats possible
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mav
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not read whole thinjg but read your post Lynny..
they will never make that stick...It's not the bars responsabilty but the drinkers...
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Lynny
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Originally posted by mav
not read whole thinjg but read your post Lynny..
they will never make that stick...It's not the bars responsabilty but the drinkers...
thats what we're hoping. we know it is the law and that we are responsible if say, someone leaves our pub drunk and damages the shopping centre we're in as we let them get that drunk, but how we were to know that someone was driving home etc
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mav
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exactly...You cannot make sure everybody drinking is going to not drive, how can you??
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Lynny
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exactly. i hope this gets sorted, moral at work was low enough as it was!
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ssj_kakarot
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sounds like crap tbh, how are they going to prove that the man actually got intoxicated from drinks served in your pub; he may have only had one half in your pub and been under the drink drive limit, then proceded to buy more drinks from asda which pushed him over the limit. Meening your pub wouldnt have actually got him drunk so it wouldnt be your fault, unless he kept the reciepts from your pub which is unlikely to say the least id say its all crap.
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Lynny
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
sounds like crap tbh, how are they going to prove that the man actually got intoxicated from drinks served in your pub; he may have only had one half in your pub and been under the drink drive limit, then proceded to buy more drinks from asda which pushed him over the limit. Meening your pub wouldnt have actually got him drunk so it wouldnt be your fault, unless he kept the reciepts from your pub which is unlikely to say the least id say its all crap.
CCTV....
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ssj_kakarot
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it all sound a bit far fetched tbh.
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Lynny
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
it all sound a bit far fetched tbh.
no our cctv tapes have been taken
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Jake
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happy days Lynny.....happy days...
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