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It will get to a point though, when players will realise this is not such a good thing after all... SWP a good example of this.... how much did they pay again? 20m?


well I was hoping that after SWP and a few of the others not playing that often that players would realise this. But Ballack is a perfect example that this isnt going to be the case if they throw enough money at them.
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true... 130k a week for a 29 year old starting a 3 year deal.... im amazed to be honest.... whats lampard on again ???
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Wages up front as well, what a joke.

In midfield they have

Lampard
Gudjohnsen
Ballack
Essien
Geremi
Manchini
Robben
Duff
Cole
Shaun Wright Phillips
Makalele

IMO that is ridiculous
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expect about half of those to fuck off in the next 12 months
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would you fuck off if you getting paid silly money to train a few times a week.
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would you fuck off if you getting paid silly money to train a few times a week.


no, but thats not going to carry on forever .... Gallas is on a healthy packet at Chelski... however wants out and will take a massive cut to get into the AC Milan scene
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Chelsea have to agree to let them go. They bought them for a reason (either to play or so they dont play for others) so they arent likely to agree to it.
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yes but if you own the players registation there is nothing they can do, if you want to hold of them.

I hate chelsea don't get me wrong but if you can afford it why not buy them so no one else can and 130,000 is a week is not all that much when you think they got him for free.
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yes but if you own the players registation there is nothing they can do, if you want to hold of them.

I hate chelsea don't get me wrong but if you can afford it why not buy them so no one else can and 130,000 is a week is not all that much when you think they got him for free.


of course not... 130k a week wages... and zero sign fee... id take that anyday for a world class midfielder..... I wonder... with chelsea where does it end???
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All that money and they still havnt won the Champions League

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All that money and they still havnt won the Champions League

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Liverpool fan I take it....

I think the domestic to them, is more important... doing both would be fantastic though
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LMAO Ballack isn't even that bloody good

As for Shevchenko... £37.5m you are seriously having a laugh

He is quality but worth no more than £12m ish IMO, 29 years old etc
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All that money and they still havnt won the Champions League

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Even mighty liverpool was not built in a few years.

Only clough could do that to a team.
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LMAO Ballack isn't even that bloody good

As for Shevchenko... £37.5m you are seriously having a laugh

He is quality but worth no more than £12m ish IMO, 29 years old etc


In what way is ballack not that good? Seriously have you watched him over the last 3-4 years ??? He is an absolute top class midfielder
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LMAO Ballack isn't even that bloody good

As for Shevchenko... £37.5m you are seriously having a laugh

He is quality but worth no more than £12m ish IMO, 29 years old etc


Yes but if you got the funds then why not.
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Wages up front as well, what a joke.

In midfield they have

Lampard Awesome
Gudjohnsen Rubbish and not even a midfielder!
Ballack Not as good as he is made out to be
Essien Crap £26m
Geremi Not good enough for Chelsea, there for the ride
Manchini Crap these days
Robben Would be better if he could stay vertical
Duff UTTER GOB SHITE unless he is playing for Ireland, NEVER worht more than £6mish IMO They paid £17m
Cole Quality yet neglected
Shaun Wright Phillips Was signed PURELY to stop Arsenal using the Vieira proceds to buy him
Makalele Quality if perhaps the most uninteresting footballer ever to walk the planet lol

IMO that is ridiculous


All IMO
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quote:
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LMAO Ballack isn't even that bloody good

As for Shevchenko... £37.5m you are seriously having a laugh

He is quality but worth no more than £12m ish IMO, 29 years old etc


In what way is ballack not that good? Seriously have you watched him over the last 3-4 years ??? He is an absolute top class midfielder
Yes, he is good but he is not as good as people are making out ie. £130k per week (which equates to what, a £20m transfer had they had to pay?)
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agree with most of what robbo says, except for Ballack, i dont think you have watched him, like most people that dont know an awful lot about him
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LMAO Ballack isn't even that bloody good

As for Shevchenko... £37.5m you are seriously having a laugh

He is quality but worth no more than £12m ish IMO, 29 years old etc


Yes but if you got the funds then why not.
True true
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Robbo - 130k a week, signed him for nothing though... someone work it out... say they pay him 50k-60k a week ... over 3 years how much is he worth... i cant be arsed
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Not really as they would of still had to pay him wages for three years
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agree with most of what robbo says, except for Ballack, i dont think you have watched him, like most people that dont know an awful lot about him
Yes but at the same time he has been oplayign in the Bundesliga... he is obv better than those im about to list BUT all these looked awesome in lesser leagues as well:

Essien
Cisse
Morientes (Monaco)
Rothen (looks pants when he plays/ed for France)

etc
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Robbo - 130k a week, signed him for nothing though... someone work it out... say they pay him 50k-60k a week ... over 3 years how much is he worth... i cant be arsed
Well thats what I mean, iirc when Arsenal got Campbell (£100k a week?) i think they estimated the tfr price would have been £15m ish
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quote:
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agree with most of what robbo says, except for Ballack, i dont think you have watched him, like most people that dont know an awful lot about him
Yes but at the same time he has been oplayign in the Bundesliga... he is obv better than those im about to list BUT all these looked awesome in lesser leagues as well:

Essien
Cisse
Morientes (Monaco)
Rothen (looks pants when he plays/ed for France)

etc


Yes, Cisse is absolute turd IMO, needs out from the scouse massive >> Ballack... i dunno, i think he will be excellent next season, im very dissapointed United did not land him in January, im a big fan
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We shall see

t really is gonna turn into a precession(sp) if they get Shevchenko as well

Arsenal for Torres though

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