Ojc
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2.2 16v is a very advanced engine, no cambelt changes required, very punchy on the motorway, around town it feels slower than it actually is because of the smoothness of it, it was'nt until last week when I had a accidental race with a VTR that I realised how much quicker it is.
Unless you have the Turbo I have to admit its a tad boring to drive, doesn't exceed at anything but doesn't let you down, but then I get to drive Rachels GSi so I'm constantly comparing the two, which is a bad thing.
Regal do a tuning package for the 2.2 16v from Dblias, think its about 2.5k and releases 40bhp, or you can supercharge it like the Americans (the engine is very popular in America).
One of the new Alfas also has this engine, but it produces 170bhp with just cam reprofiling and software update, would like a drive in one.
Book figures are 0-60 in 8.2 seconds top whack of 136mph, comes into its own on the motorway.
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by K17STY
standard they look slow and are slow,, 140odd brake for a car as heavy and over 1200kg aint good, mate had a 2.2 and hers was one of the most powerful i think on A.S sure it was running 156brake,black car and had carbon bonnet and looked quite nice, was an 03 plate and on its 3rd engine so that cant be a good sign tho
timing chains a common fault on them but thats all i know
id agree with seth you want to tune it best going for an turbo
go for the corrado 
but your a girl so it doesnt count 
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JadeM
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Get something with a Turbo Jim 
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Jonny P
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Originally posted by JadeM
Get something with a Turbo Jim
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Jambo
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Registered: 8th Sep 01
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Fit this:
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3CorsaMeal
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Originally posted by welshdude
The coupe is better looking than the hatch imo. They are usually better spec'ed as well.
I've got a 1.8 and although its not lightening fast, its smooth and very comfortable
my bro has a 1.8 coupe, is nice to look at, smooth etc, but quite boring
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K17STY
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by K17STY
standard they look slow and are slow,, 140odd brake for a car as heavy and over 1200kg aint good, mate had a 2.2 and hers was one of the most powerful i think on A.S sure it was running 156brake,black car and had carbon bonnet and looked quite nice, was an 03 plate and on its 3rd engine so that cant be a good sign tho
timing chains a common fault on them but thats all i know
id agree with seth you want to tune it best going for an turbo
go for the corrado
but your a girl so it doesnt count
still all true though 
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Cybermonkey
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not really. not once did you mention the torque the engine produces.
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Steve
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203 lb/ft? crappo, esp with such little power and such heavy car
[Edited on 12-05-2006 by Steve]
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Martin_C
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was 156bhp with the engine standard, 16.2 sec 1/4mile iirc, mate has one, goes off the clock no probs, 140+, her's is standard too.
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Steve
203 lb/ft? crappo, esp with such little power and such heavy car
[Edited on 12-05-2006 by Steve]
203Nm stephen. heavy car?? what 1300kg? thats not excessive...
besides, i thought it was very punchy once it was out on the open road. cetainly pulled from down low really well
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K17STY
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
not really. not once did you mention the torque the engine produces.
ok,, itl be really good for pulling caravans and sitting cruising in a high gear on the motorway 
just dont go racing any torqueless civics or youl get your ass handed to you 
is that better?
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Steve
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"We usually describe Vauxhall engines as punchy. So punchy it is, then. The sound of it doesn't stir the senses, but give it some revs and the 16-valve, 145bhp unit will propel you along with a decent amount of vigour. Peak torque, a useful 203lb ft, comes in at 4,000rpm. Even when it's in fifth, extra pressure on the throttle will send you over to the wrong side of the law with remarkable ease. I liked it a lot and so did my nieces. "
besides if it is NM that makes it even worse
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K17STY
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Originally posted by Martin_C
was 156bhp with the engine standard, 16.2 sec 1/4mile iirc, mate has one, goes off the clock no probs, 140+, her's is standard too.
although she does think it has been remapped at one point 
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Steve
"We usually describe Vauxhall engines as punchy. So punchy it is, then. The sound of it doesn't stir the senses, but give it some revs and the 16-valve, 145bhp unit will propel you along with a decent amount of vigour. Peak torque, a useful 203lb ft, comes in at 4,000rpm. Even when it's in fifth, extra pressure on the throttle will send you over to the wrong side of the law with remarkable ease. I liked it a lot and so did my nieces. "
besides if it is NM that makes it even worse
Steven dont be a bellend. with a power output of 145bhp, its not going to have 200lb/ft torque is it its 150lb/ft torque.
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Steve
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even worse than i first thought then 
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
not really. not once did you mention the torque the engine produces.
ok,, itl be really good for pulling caravans and sitting cruising in a high gear on the motorway
just dont go racing any torqueless civics or youl get your ass handed to you
is that better?
dumb ass bitch. is that what you really think torque is responsible for why does Ian not have a vetting procedure on this site???
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Steve
even worse than i first thought then
have you driven one?
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Steve
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no, i dont have any urge to either, the figures speak for themselves
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Icy
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tee's one is now gone tho
she overtook me at 130 back up from trax!!! grrrr vnippy tho
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Steve
no, i dont have any urge to either, the figures speak for themselves
steve you dissapoint me.
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K17STY
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
not really. not once did you mention the torque the engine produces.
ok,, itl be really good for pulling caravans and sitting cruising in a high gear on the motorway
just dont go racing any torqueless civics or youl get your ass handed to you
is that better?
dumb ass bitch. is that what you really think torque is responsible for why does Ian not have a vetting procedure on this site???
language little boy
yes i know fine what torque is used for and how it works,, do you know that peak torque is better to be made higher up in the rev range than lower down as this way you can use the gearbox of a car in the way it was meant to,,
im guessing you have a 2.2
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Steve
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where are people getting this idea that peak torque is like BHP and just vanishes once it hits peak, even if it hits peak at 2k rpm it should hold the same torque at 5k rpm so when it hits peak torque has nothing to do with it
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Cybermonkey
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if an engine is strong and well designed, it is possible for it to roughly maintain peak torque values from just above idle all the way up to the point the engine make peak power. this is the best scenario for torque and performance. this makes the car more dynamic on the road, meaning you have instant torque whatever rev range the engine is dropped into.
and no i have a 2.0 actually.
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Steve
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exactly whats this bollox that peak torque is better higher up the rev range, wtf, mine makes peak torque at 2.3k rpm and holds it there till around 5.7krpm
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