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gianluigi
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12th Apr 06 at 12:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I feel this is not rediculous. its the way it should be.
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Originally posted by Jambo
so how do you define nationality then?

Surely when you were born you would of been registered in england? and given an BRITISH passport?

Im not having a go, im trying to understand


Thats nice of you ed.

If i had the choice id have a english passport


i've edited that for you
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12th Apr 06 at 12:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but why though jambo?
gianluigi
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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.forza-italia.it/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dforza%2Bitalia%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D
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Italians in WW2 were fcuking superb
gianluigi
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whats that got to do with anything?
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quote:
Originally posted by Edd
but why though jambo?



Because its pointless.

Im english, i have no scottish or welsh or northern irish blood in me.

I am English as they come. I am proud to be, being british means nothing.

Im sure people never call you british, they call you scottish!

I have no problem with it being there, i have a probelm with being called british, as im English first as you pointed out.


Tis all
gianluigi
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Originally posted by Jambo
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
but why though jambo?



Because its pointless.

Im english, i have no scottish or welsh or northern irish blood in me.

I am English as they come. I am proud to be, being british means nothing.

Im sure people never call you british, they call you scottish!

I have no problem with it being there, i have a probelm with being called british, as im English first as you pointed out.


Tis all


God damn Brits
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
but why though jambo?



Because its pointless.

Im english, i have no scottish or welsh or northern irish blood in me.

I am English as they come. I am proud to be, being british means nothing.

Im sure people never call you british, they call you scottish!

I have no problem with it being there, i have a probelm with being called british, as im English first as you pointed out.


Tis all


exactly! First British next we will be known as Europeans.
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Clive you are as English as they come, stop with this fake Italian rubbish.

You were born here and have lived here all your life (from what I can tell) so just because your parents are Italian it doesnt make you one. I dont see the big deal about wanting to be italian either, not exactly got the best reputation in the world.
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No, I'm not quite sure I would want to be Italian over being British

I would'nt want to be viewed by the rest of the world at completely useless country that runs away from war and changes side when the going gets rough
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But they do make the best motorbikes
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Clive you are as English as they come, stop with this fake Italian rubbish.

You were born here and have lived here all your life (from what I can tell) so just because your parents are Italian it doesnt make you one. I dont see the big deal about wanting to be italian either, not exactly got the best reputation in the world.


why you so insistant on me being english? I will show u my passport if i have to
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Originally posted by gianluigi
why you so insistant on me being english? I will show u my passport if i have to


no, let me just carry on calling you Clive...Im happier that way!
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Originally posted by Ojc
No, I'm not quite sure I would want to be Italian over being British

I would'nt want to be viewed by the rest of the world at completely useless country that runs away from war and changes side when the going gets rough


Lovley counrty

excellent culture

lovely weather

great history

excellent food

beautiful females

manufacturers of top cars and motorbikes

good football

Need i continue? - a country to be proud of IMO


[Edited on 12-04-2006 by gianluigi]
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quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
why you so insistant on me being english? I will show u my passport if i have to


no, let me just carry on calling you Clive...Im happier that way!


as long as you're happy
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why is there such an argument about this i am french but born in north london, and this month i have to vote in elections for person to repressent french ppl abroad.

I dont feel english so i dont vote here i vote for my nationality as this is the way i was brought up

so before you try and argue against me or gianluigi, answer this question are you one contry or 4 diffrent countries?????????????
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Why do you live in Ipswich of all places if Italy is all that + more
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Thanks Zizou *bows down*
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Originally posted by Zizou
why is there such an argument about this i am french but born in north london, and this month i have to vote in elections for person to repressent french ppl abroad.

I dont feel english so i dont vote here i vote for my nationality as this is the way i was brought up

so before you try and argue against me or gianluigi, answer this question are you one contry or 4 diffrent countries?????????????


you dont feel english so you dont vote? You live here, so whatever Government is in power here effects you (your education, your healthcare, your police, etc. etc.) so feel it or not surely its more in your best interests to vote in the country you live??
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Why do you live in Ipswich of all places if Italy is all that + more


this is where i was born, this is where i work, this is where my friends and close family are.
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On a more topical note, this is the new Italian Prime Minister

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.romanoprodi.it/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DRomano%2BProdi%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D
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Originally posted by gianluigi
Lovley counrty - Parts of it are a fucking mess

excellent culture - yeah, great if your a visiting football fan with your family

lovely weather - Last time I went it pissed it down for 2 weeks. And when my sister lived there for a year it was shite weather!

great history - being?

excellent food - I'll give you that one!

beautiful females - Yeah, those little fat Italian mommas are hot!!

manufacturers of top cars and motorbikes - I love Fiats!

good football - May 2005 and the continual racism and hooliganism!

Need i continue? - a country to be proud of IMO


[Edited on 12-04-2006 by gianluigi]
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yes good point but, i find that it depends on what area you live in to your quality of education, health, police, etc, and what ever goverment is in power if i live in the suburbs i will have it better than if i was living in the city
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quote:
Originally posted by Zizou
yes good point but, i find that it depends on what area you live in to your quality of education, health, police, etc, and what ever goverment is in power if i live in the suburbs i will have it better than if i was living in the city


it doesnt matter where you live in the UK, you are effected by the Government. Even just simple laws that you dont realise are there, etc. It just makes no sense to me to vote for the Government of a country you dont live in and therefore wont effect how you live, and ignore the country you do live in!!

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