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Oh... and best forms of naturally occuring Proteins are:
Eggs = 100% Protein.
Then Fish = Around 70% Protein. Tuna being the best. Then Salmon. Then Mackerel.
The Red Meat = Between 40% and 55% Protein.
egg buttie in the morning
tuna sandwich in afternoon
steak (done rare) at night
 sound good?
That's still well under 100g protein daily, so i'd say it's not so good. You also need a good portion of fruit and vegetables throughout the day.
well obv not that, i will continue with what i have, but try and shove those in somewhere 
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diet wise regarding intake and that, would i be better eating whatever i can, (ilke choclate and crisps when i'm at work as this is all they sell (walkers arn't that unhealthy these days) rather than not eating at all?
you'd be better off making stuff up the night before and taking it in. Thats what I do with most of my meals so I dont end up eating shit all day!
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diet wise regarding intake and that, would i be better eating whatever i can, (ilke choclate and crisps when i'm at work as this is all they sell (walkers arn't that unhealthy these days) rather than not eating at all?
you'd be better off making stuff up the night before and taking it in. Thats what I do with most of my meals so I dont end up eating shit all day!
Do'nt always have time, if i'm at uni then straight to work. I'd eat nuts but they sell shitty cheap ones and not kp. 
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Do'nt always have time, if i'm at uni then straight to work. I'd eat nuts but they sell shitty cheap ones and not kp.
takes me 10mins to cook up some chicken breasts and make rice or a salad or some veg. Easy and quick and 100x better than crisps!!
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Although the basics of bodybuilding and nutrition are pretty much solid, everyone is different. What works for one person, might not work for another.
Ask 10 bodybuilders a question and you'll probably get 10 different answers...
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Do'nt always have time, if i'm at uni then straight to work. I'd eat nuts but they sell shitty cheap ones and not kp.
takes me 10mins to cook up some chicken breasts and make rice or a salad or some veg. Easy and quick and 100x better than crisps!!
haven't got in a kitchen in my car, or time, as already said! Don't like rice, salad or veg either. 
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haven't got in a kitchen in my car, or time, as already said! Don't like rice, salad or veg either.
you live in a car?! And you dont have 10mins before you go to bed, that is one hectic life!! 
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Although the basics of bodybuilding and nutrition are pretty much solid, everyone is different. What works for one person, might not work for another.
Ask 10 bodybuilders a question and you'll probably get 10 different answers...
Spot on there Craig. .
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haven't got in a kitchen in my car, or time, as already said! Don't like rice, salad or veg either.
you live in a car?! And you dont have 10mins before you go to bed, that is one hectic life!!
was regarding work, go straight from uni to work, i don't physically have time to go and make food or call anywhere, to get something slightly healthier.
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Tiger i disagree that tuna is a good quality protein, ive read a few studies and have always believed that eggs are 100% protein, chicken/turkey is around 70% protein and tuna is around 40% protein. Paul Borreson always used to talk about tuna being a poor quality protein at his seminars. But you can bring the quality of the protein up if you consume it with a good quality protein, such as whey etc.
no such thing as poor quality protein. your after the amino acids what ever the protein you get amino acids. how the food is prepared is the problem
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Just to say its not a case of just needing 10 minutes to prepare the meal he would also need to make sure he had that food and then make it
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was regarding work, go straight from uni to work, i don't physically have time to go and make food or call anywhere, to get something slightly healthier.
I meant make it all the night before and take it with you, no need to pop home and can then keep to some sort of proper diet instead of a bag of crisps!
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my breakfast today was a large bowl of ice-cream and a cup of coffee
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Just to say its not a case of just needing 10 minutes to prepare the meal he would also need to make sure he had that food and then make it
Im almost certain he has to go the shops to buy his current food for when he isnt at work or Uni so adds no more time to just grab some chicken while he is there. The 10mins is to make it, thats all he needs to spend, where else is this going to need more time?
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Tiger i disagree that tuna is a good quality protein, ive read a few studies and have always believed that eggs are 100% protein, chicken/turkey is around 70% protein and tuna is around 40% protein. Paul Borreson always used to talk about tuna being a poor quality protein at his seminars. But you can bring the quality of the protein up if you consume it with a good quality protein, such as whey etc.
no such thing as poor quality protein. your after the amino acids what ever the protein you get amino acids. how the food is prepared is the problem
Yes i know proteins are built up of amino acids. Proteins that contain all nine essential amino acids are called complete proteins. The protein efficiency ratio (PER) is a measurement of protein's completeness. Protein is rated according to various indices IE the Biological Value or BV of the protein. The higher the BV value the more readily the protein is absorbed by the body. So in that respect, taking into consideration that for a complete protein, all 9 amino acids need to be present, IMHO, tuna is a poorer quailty protein compared to the likes of whole eggs etc.
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Tiger i disagree that tuna is a good quality protein, ive read a few studies and have always believed that eggs are 100% protein, chicken/turkey is around 70% protein and tuna is around 40% protein. Paul Borreson always used to talk about tuna being a poor quality protein at his seminars. But you can bring the quality of the protein up if you consume it with a good quality protein, such as whey etc.
no such thing as poor quality protein. your after the amino acids what ever the protein you get amino acids. how the food is prepared is the problem
Yes i know proteins are built up of amino acids. Proteins that contain all nine essential amino acids are called complete proteins. The protein efficiency ratio (PER) is a measurement of protein's completeness. Protein is rated according to various indices IE the Biological Value or BV of the protein. The higher the BV value the more readily the protein is absorbed by the body. So in that respect, taking into consideration that for a complete protein, all 9 amino acids need to be present, IMHO, tuna is a poorer quailty protein compared to the likes of whole eggs etc.
you mean 20 amino acids. Digestion breaks protein down to amino acids. If amino acids are in excess of the body's biological requirements, they are metabolized to glycogen or fat and subsequently used for energy metabolism. If amino acids are to be used for energy their carbon skeletons are converted to acetyl CoA, which enters the Krebs cycle for oxidation, producing ATP. The final products of protein catabolism include carbon dioxide, water, ATP, urea, and ammonia.
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Yes, 20, i know. But amino acids are categorized as essential and non-essential. Out of the 20 amino acids, 9 are considered essential amino acids those that are not manufactured by the body, these must come from dietary intake. The body is able to manufacture the non-essential amino acids from the by-products of carbohydrate metabolism.
Essential Amino acids:
Histidine, Isoleucine and Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Tryptophan and Valine.
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Yes, 20, i know. But amino acids are categorized as essential and non-essential. Out of the 20 amino acids, 9 are considered essential amino acids those that are not manufactured by the body, these must come from dietary intake. The body is able to manufacture the non-essential amino acids from the by-products of carbohydrate metabolism.
Essential Amino acids:
Histidine, Isoleucine and Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Tryptophan and Valine.
yes slight problem in the way it was put over.
p.s you missed out Arginine
p.p.s arginine and histidine are made by the body
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Yeah Arginine aids the release of growth hormones for muscle growth and tissue repair doesn't it? 
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ive been lookin at different supplements etc, and they all say they are the best etc, but what do you guys reccomend, and where can i get it from etc?
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Yeah Arginine aids the release of growth hormones for muscle growth and tissue repair doesn't it?
feck knows that would require me to look up google
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As has been said loads of protein (and good carbs) is needed. After you perfect your diet then maybe think about supplements. Whey protein is awesome (I take Optimum Nutrition Whey) .
On creatine- it works for a lot of people so I cant knock it. It has certainly helped me get past a training plateau in the past.
At the end of the day you need to try what works for you in terms of a routine, diet and supplements.
Check out bodybuilding.com's forums and articles.
Remember:
Eat like a horse
Train like an animal
Sleep like a baby
Grow like a weed
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ive been lookin at different supplements etc, and they all say they are the best etc, but what do you guys reccomend, and where can i get it from etc?
Ive tried quite a few supplements, and IMO this is by far the best...
http://monstersupplements.com/store/product_detail-447-lang-1.html
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After you perfect your diet then maybe think about supplements. Whey protein is awesome (I take Optimum Nutrition Whey) .
Chocolate flavour tastes awesome with Milk and is even nice with water
[Edited on 08-03-2006 by corsa5dr]
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I really don't like chicken or eggs has anyone got any other suggestions for main meals/ snacks as well as supplements?
[Edited on 08-03-2006 by chris-sri]
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