carnoisseurcraig
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its the piston rings. either that or the valve stem seals.
Time to replace the engine with a valver!!!
LOL
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mark_gsi
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Originally posted by carnoisseurcraig
Time to replace the engine with a valver!!!
LOL
 or a LET, turbo will run mint with the cold air up there
[Edited on 06-03-2006 by corsaflip]
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Black Corsa SRi
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one engine out wont make a slight bit of difference to it
[Edited on 06-03-2006 by Corsa_Sam]
spot on it wont make a slight bit of diference to it. Its most likely an engine has just gone pop, hence the black smoke, not really a flame out as someone said as you wouldnt really get the black smoke then. Its more common than you might think but obviusoly not an everyday occurance and never really causes any problems just in itself especially at that height, even on take off it wouldnt be too much of a prob. I know of a BA 747 that took off from JFK (or certainly somewhere in the US) lost an engine on the climb and continued to Gatwcik without any prob at all its an anticpated and provided for event. Bit of a rare one to fly that far admitadly but its in the operating procedures and allowable. I doubt you'll ever hear anything about it, not on the news anyway!
but obviously from a picture taken from the ground no one can say for sure the engine may not have even failed in this case there prob something wrong hence the black vapour etc but there is loads of things that could cause this! it may not even be possible to tell from post flight inspection what was wrong but you could also have bits of the engine or bird spattered everywhere too lol! its impossible to really say!
[Edited on 06-03-2006 by Black Corsa SRi]
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ed
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There have been loaaaaddsss of cases where planes have done trans atlantic fligts with failed engines Remember reading that a BA flight did a trans atlantic on one engine, used so much fuel it needed to land in Ireland because it couldn't make it to Gatwick or Heathrow....
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black smoke is over fueling
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Black Corsa SRi
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Originally posted by ed
Remember reading that a BA flight did a trans atlantic on one engine, used so much fuel it needed to land in Ireland because it couldn't make it to Gatwick or Heathrow....
are you sure? i think it may have lost one engine rather than have been flying on one engine (unless obviously its ETOPs then losing one en gine is flying on one engine! LOL) but one engine is a bit much they would have to have diverted at the earliest oportunity for that! whether it was a 747 or an ETOPS aircraft they'd have been strugglng for pressurisation (but that would be helped by starting the APU I suppose), thrust, and pretty much everything and if it was a 747 and 3 engines had gone its obviously a generic fault ie fuel starvation etc rather than just an engine going pop so the 4th could have gone at any time theres no way it would intentionally have flown all the way across the pond like that its more likely if it was on one engine then it happened when the Irish airport was its closest divert there no way in a million years it'd fly like that it'd just be far too dangerous! admitidly if it was an ETOPS 180 or 240 aircraft it may well have had to fly for 3 or 4 hours like to its nearest divert but no way all the way over the pond!
just my informed opinion, if you read it somewhere it could be true just seems unlikely to me, maybe you rember the details wrong? or i've misunderstood what u mean? lol
[Edited on 06-03-2006 by Black Corsa SRi]
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mark_gsi
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ahh well aslong as no one was hurt is the main thing 
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Cosmo
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the engines dont keep the plane in the air, they just make it go forward. The wing shape is what keeps it up there.
Trans atlantic would have more than 2 engines (normally) so could easily make it the full flight without one. If the company would choose to do so or divert is another matter.
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quote:
Originally posted by Black Corsa SRi
quote:
Originally posted by ed
Remember reading that a BA flight did a trans atlantic on one engine, used so much fuel it needed to land in Ireland because it couldn't make it to Gatwick or Heathrow....
are you sure? i think it may have lost one engine rather than have been flying on one engine (unless obviously its ETOPs then losing one en gine is flying on one engine! LOL) but one engine is a bit much they would have to have diverted at the earliest oportunity for that! whether it was a 747 or an ETOPS aircraft they'd have been strugglng for pressurisation (but that would be helped by starting the APU I suppose), thrust, and pretty much everything and if it was a 747 and 3 engines had gone its obviously a generic fault ie fuel starvation etc rather than just an engine going pop so the 4th could have gone at any time theres no way it would intentionally have flown all the way across the pond like that its more likely if it was on one engine then it happened when the Irish airport was its closest divert there no way in a million years it'd fly like that it'd just be far too dangerous! admitidly if it was an ETOPS 180 or 240 aircraft it may well have had to fly for 3 or 4 hours like to its nearest divert but no way all the way over the pond!
just my informed opinion, if you read it somewhere it could be true just seems unlikely to me, maybe you rember the details wrong? or i've misunderstood what u mean? lol
[Edited on 06-03-2006 by Black Corsa SRi]
Can't remember the facts of it. I know BA were later to review thier policies over engine failures after this incident and several others as people belived that safety was being compramised....
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Ian
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I think I saw the same plane. Trail looked a bit dark but it was flying OK!
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PaulW
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Originally posted by Ian
I think I saw the same plane. Trail looked a bit dark but it was flying OK!
about 5:30 to 5:35??
from what i saw, it did start to decend as it got inland
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Ian
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Yeah just before you posted.
I didn't study it tbh. Hope its OK!
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Cosmo
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was it not just landing at John Lennon?
I heard a bit of a sound in Manchester of a place descending rapidly (that plumiting sound) but nothing new to me and doubt it was the same!
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Wait till Cybermonkey gets on , his flacid penis will be straight out with this post.
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
Wait till Cybermonkey gets on , his flacid penis will be straight out with this post.
funnily enough thats what I thought when I first saw this post...made me feel sick 
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Originally posted by Cosmo
the engines dont keep the plane in the air, they just make it go forward. The wing shape is what keeps it up there
 You learn something everyday ^^^^^^^^
So going on that theory does that mean that if the engines fail, it will stay up there suspended in mid air because of the shape of the wings  PMSL !!
Seriously tho, it's just not right that a big thing like that can keep up in the air at all !! The thought of it scares me to death
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Ian
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I don't know whether to take the time to reply to that or not.
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Originally posted by Ian
I don't know whether to take the time to reply to that or not.
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CorsAsh
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Google Search "Bernoulli's Principle".
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VegasPhil
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Try sending the pics to The Sun/Mirror etc.
They enjoyed that near miss at the west ham game. Worth a Shot
Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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Very intresting indeed, I often lay in bed listening to the planes circling waiting to land at Heathrow and I think to myself "what if one of them blew up right now, I'd be fooked" as my house is right on the circling path.
I might buy a SAM system and start shooting them down 
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i'd love to live near heathrow... the closest I get to hearing aircraft activity is the police helicopter, flying over townhill chasing pikey carthieves. 
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
the engines dont keep the plane in the air, they just make it go forward. The wing shape is what keeps it up there
not entirely true, the wing shape gives it lift, without a force applied in a lateral direction this lift would be non existant
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sam
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
the engines dont keep the plane in the air, they just make it go forward. The wing shape is what keeps it up there
not entirely true, the wing shape gives it lift, without a force applied in a lateral direction this lift would be non existant
yeah, true...but one engine would be enough to do this!
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